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From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 11, 1999
Subject: Welcome to the new RV4-List Email List at Matronics!
Welcome to the new RV4-List Email List at Matronics! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 11, 1999
Subject: New, RV Model-Specific Email Lists At Matronics!
rv8-list(at)matronics.com Dear RV Listers, A couple of weeks ago I received a request from a fellow (I accidently deleted his email message - please write me again) who had been running an RV-3 email list and was wondering if I would be interested in taking it over for him. It seemed like a good idea and I thought that I would go ahead and create not only the RV3-specific list, but also one for the RV4, RV6, and RV8 models as well. Well, you can imagine my surprise when Joe Colontonio announced his new RV-8 email list this week! Anyway, I'm definitely not trying to 'one-up' Joe, but I wanted to added the model-specific lists to the current RV-List here at Matronics. The new Lists (RV3-List, RV4-List, RV6-List, and RV8-List) each have their own digest mode, as well as the traditional Archive Search Engine access and Archive Browsing capability via the web interface. Please note that the current RV-List general List still exists and will continue to co-exist with these new model-specific Lists. I would encourage everyone to only use the specific Lists for discussions that severely only relate to the model in question. You may subscribe to any of the new model-specific Lists at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 12, 1999
Subject: Two MORE Email Lists at Matronics...
Dear Listers, At the request of a couple of members, I have added two more Email Lists to the Servers here at Matronics. These include: avionics-list(at)matronics.com Aircraft Avionics related topics such as Radios, GPSs, VSIs, DMEs, etc. engines-list(at)matronics.com Aircraft Engine related topics such as Lycomings, Auto conversions, etc. As usual, the new lists have full archive searching and browsing capabilities. You may subscribe to the new lists by using the Web-Based subscription form at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 13, 1999
rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: New Specific RV Lists Auto Forwarded to RV-List...
Hi RV Listers, I've received quite a few comments about the diluting affect having specific lists will have on the main RV-List. Also, that archive searching would be somewhat more difficult. I've tried something this morning that might solve the problem. What I've done is automatically forward any messages sent to the RV3-List, RV4-List, RV6-List, and RV8-List to the main RV-List. This will assure that all messages will be appended to the RV-List archive, easing the searching task as well. What do people think of this solution? Matt Dralle Email List Admin. PS - I think that I've set it up so that, when a message is cross-posted to more than one RV-Specific List as I did with this message, only one copy will be forwarded to the RV-List for general viewing. Hopefully! -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: AAMRELECTR(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 15, 1999
Subject: Sound Damping Tape For Aircraft
This is from AAMR/AirCore. There is a new page up on our site. It's can be found on our home page http://members.aol.com/aamrelectr/index.html Click Sound Damping Tape. This the same stuff Boeing uses in it's fuselages to reduce unwanted noise and vibration. We've got a really great price on it. Regards, John @AAMR/AirCore ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 03, 1999
From: Scott <acepilot(at)mwt.net>
Subject: Oshkosh 99 funny photo
Here's a few pics from over the summer. Of particular interest is the motorhome shot from Oshkosh 99. RV-4 guys ought to get a chuckle... http://www.mwt.net/~acepilot/miscphotos.html -- --Scott-- 1986 Corben Junior Ace N3642 RV-4 under construction (tail feathers) Gotta Fly or Gonna Die! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 12, 1999
Subject: JPI vs. Matronics Settlement Reached...
Dear Listers, After seven months of negotiations, JP Instruments, Inc. and Matronics have reached a mutually agreeable settlement. As most of you are aware, in February of this year, JP Instruments, Inc. alleged that Matronics' use of the trademark "FuelScan" with its aircraft fuel management system infringed upon JP Instruments, Inc's trademark "Scanner" for engine temperature indicators. JP Instruments, Inc. requested that Matronics discontinue the use of the "FuelScan" mark. After considerable negotiations, we have come to an agreement whereby JP Instruments, Inc. will purchase the FuelScan trademark and, if necessary, assist in paying the cost of Matronics' adoption of a new trademark. Matronics will continue to sell and market its aircraft fuel management system under the FuelScan trademark until a phase-out period of up to one year is completed. This will allow Matronics time to sell out its current stock of units marked with the FuelScan trademark and to develop a new trademark. While negotiations have been a bit trying at times, I would like to say that I am satisfied with the outcome, and feel that JP Instruments, Inc. has treated Matronics and me fairly in this matter. Furthermore, I would encourage you to consider JP Instruments for your aircraft avionics in the future as they manufacture an excellent product line. Finally, I would like to thank everyone from around the world for their support and consideration in this matter. I was quite moved by the support - both financial and in the form of letters and comments - that builders and pilots provided me and my company during this time. I never felt alone during this period, and so very much appreciated the encouragement from thousands of my friends! Thank you so very much! Best regards, Matt Dralle President, Matronics -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 17, 1999
Subject: RV-4 Trim Tab Cutout (SK-6?)...
Hi RV Builders! I seem to have lost my RV-4 Trimtab cutout sketch from the manual. I believe it is Sk-6. I'm working on the left elv. skin and need the cutout measurments. Would someone be so kind as to FAX me a copy of SK-6??? Or, even scan and email it to me? Thanks! FAX: 925-606-6281 EAMIL: dralle(at)matronics.com Matt Dralle RV-4 Builder -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: RVBryan(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 20, 1999
Subject: RV4 Fuse or Wing parts
Listers, I am new to this list and am building an RV4. I have the tail section complete and have attained a few parts (leading edge ribs, not including the tank) for the wings. As I am in college, which takes much of my funds, I am looking for extra parts for the wings or fuse that ya'll might have that can help me complete this beautiful plane. Please email me off-list with anything that might help. Much appreciated. Bryan ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 23, 1999
Subject: [Please Read] List Fund Raiser Continues; LOC #1 December 1st!
Greetings Listers! Don't forget the 1999 List Fund Raiser is still in progress and there is still plenty of time to make a Contribution and assure yourself a place on on the first List Of Contributors (LOC)! I will post the first LOC on December 1st and it will detail everyone that has generously made a Contribution so far this year!! It costs a great deal to maintain the Email and Web server systems and high-speed Internet connection that provide the Email List services found here. I won't even mention the many, many hours I spend each week running the Lists, doing backups, handling subscription requests, and creating new email and web features and services such as the Archive Search Engine, and Archive Browser... Whoops; I think I just did! :-) This year's Fund Raiser started out pretty slow and I was starting to think that no one appreciated me anymore... ;-) But, in the last week or so things have really started to pick up! So if you haven't made a Contribution yet this year, why not join your email List friends and make a contribution today to support the continued operation of these Lists! There are two easy methods for making your Contribution: * Make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard, surf over to: http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html * Make a Contribution by check, send US Mail to: Matronics c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 I would like to sincerely thank everyone who has already made a Contribution so far this year! I greatly appreciate your generosity and support and want you to know that these Lists have been made possible directly by *YOU*! Thank you! Matt Dralle Your Email List Administrator -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Dec 02, 1999
Subject: 1999 List of Contributors #1 and a Special Thank You Message!!
Dear Listers, I would like to personally thank each and everyone that has contributed this year to 1999 List Fund Raiser! As you can see from the list of names below, there were many, many generous people from the Lists this time around and I want everyone to know just how much your support has meant to me. The list of members below includes those that have contributed during this year's List Fund Raiser as well as those that have contributed throughout the year and also those that made a donation to my Legal Defense Fund earlier in the year that was sponsored my our own Bob Nuckolls of Aero Electric. I want everyone to know just how much it means to me to receive the type of financial support for these Lists that I have this year. As the Lists have grown so much over the last few years, so have the equipment costs as well as the monthly costs such as the Internet connectivity. Your generosity during the Fund Raiser and throughout the year, truly makes the continued operation, and more importantly, the continued upgrade and improvement of these aviation-related services directly possible. That is the bottom line. Please accept my most sincere appreciation of the amazing and, at times, overwhelming generosity of so many of you wonderful people! Thank you!! For those of you that didn't quite get your contribution in on time for this first List of Contributors - be it by check or by credit card - I will be posting a followup List of Contributors #2 for 1999 in a few weeks to make sure that I properly acknowledge each and everyone of the generous List members. One last time, the addresses to make a contribution are: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or Matt Dralle c/o Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Finally, thank you all so much for your support this year both in terms of the financial contribution but also in the form of the letters and moral support during what can only be categorized as a very stressful and unsettling time. And I think you know what I'm referring to... Your support and encouragement meant more to me than you'll ever know. I felt as if I had 2500 friends all behind me, and that's a *powerful* force! Well done one and all! Thank you! Best regards for the upcoming year. Your Email List Administrator, Matt Dralle RV-4 Builder #1763 =================== 1999 List of Contributors #1 ==================== Abell, John Acker, Rob Adams, Bob Adamson, Larry Ahamer, Karl Albachten, Rudy III Alcazar, Jesus Allen, Brent Allison, Steven Ammeter, John Amundsen, Blair Anderson, Edward Armstrong, Robert Arnold, James Aronson, David Ashford, James Ashton, Kent Atkinson, Harold Baggett, Robert Baker, Gary Baker, Ray Baldwin, James Barlow, Melvin Barnes, Thomas Barnes, Tom Barnhart, Dave Barrenechea, Godo Battles, Brenton BB Diversified Services, LTD Bechtel, Amos Bell, Bruce Belted Air Power LTD. Benhan, Dallas Bennett, Peter Besing, Paul Bieber, Mike Bilodeau, Paul Bird, Carroll Blanton, Stan Bleier, Roger Blomgren, Jack Blum, Ronald Boadright, Kyle Boardman, Don III Boatright, Kyle Boatright, Robert Bodie, Pete Bonesteel, Wayne Booze, Gregory Borne, Charles Bourgeois, Rion Bourne, Larry Bovan Pe, Vaso Bowen, Larry Bowen, Miles Bower, Bob Bowhay, Eustace Bowman, Brian R Boyd, Rodney Branscomb, Warren Bray, Garrett Brian Lloyd Brick, John Bridgham, David Brogley, Mike Brooks, Chris Brooks, John Brott, Marvin Brown, Kent Brown, Scott Buckwalter, David - Avionics Systems Burlingame, Ralph Burnham, Dave Calhoun, Ronald Calvert, Jerry Cantrell, Ken Capen, Ralph Cardinal, Gregory Carey, Christopher Carr, David Carter, Jerry Carter, Ron Casey, Jeremy Chapple, Glen Chesnut, Bruce Chesnut, William Christensen, Peter Christie, William Churchill, Frank Ciolino, John Clabots, Gerald Clark, Howard Clark, James Clary, Buck Clay, Dennis Cloughley, Bill Cole, Ed Colontonio, Moe Colucci, Anthoney Conaway, James Cook, David Sr. Cooley, John Copeland, Forrest Corder, Michael Corriveau, Grant Cotter, Timothy Cox, Carson Croby, Harry Crosley, Richard Cullen, Chuck Czinkota, Garnet Dall, Richard Daudt, Larry Davidson, Jeff Davis, Christopher Davis, Jared Davis, Steve - The Panel Pilot Davis, William Day, Robert Deffner, David Del Peso, Jose Derrik, Chuck Desmond, Richard Devine, Steven Devlin, John Dewees, Ron Dial, J.R. Dominey, Clifford Dorsey, Bob Downing, Jeff Dubroc, Tommy Dudley, Richard Duffy, Russell Duncan, John Dunlap, E.T. Dziewiontkoski, Bob Eagleston, Ron Eagleston, Ronald Eastburn, James Elder, William Elhai, Irv Emrath, Marty Ensing, Dale Ervin, Thomas Erwin, Chip - Czech Aircraft Works Evans, Monte Exstrom, Daniel Faile, David Farrar, Jeffrey Farris, Paul Fetzer, George Fiedler, Mike Filucci, Michael - Red Dragon Aviaion Finch, K Flaherty, Edward Floyd, Joseph Ford, David Forrest, Gerald Forsting, Robert Fortner, Earl Four Star Products Frank, Dan Franz, Carl Frazier, Vince Frederick, Mark French, Edwin Friedman, Frank Froehlich, Carl Fromm, John Fry, John Funk, Edwin Jr. Funnell, Augustus George, William Gilbert, Mark Giusti, Roberto Glaser, Arthur Glass, Roy Glover, Ken Gold, Andy - Builder's Book Store Goldberg, Mark Good, Chris Gooding, Lawrence Goolsby, Jim Gott, Shelby Goudreault, Jacques Graham, James Jr. Grant, Jordan Griffin, Bill Griffin, Randy Groom, Larry Guillosso, Alain Hale, Michael Hales, Sherman Hall, Bob Hall, Thomas Hamer, Steven Hamilton, Thom Hamilton, William Hand, Chris Hansen, Ronald Hargis, Merle Harmon, John Harper, Malcom Harrill, Roy Harris, John Hart, Daniel Harvey, Doug Hassall, J.C. Hastedt, Margaret Hatch, Fletcher III Hatcher, Clive Hatfield, Cecil Hays, Wes Henderson, George Henderson, Randall Heritch, Ian Herndon, Richard Herren, Bill Hevern, Jerry Hiatt, Mark Hiers, Craig Hinch, Christopher Hine, Joe Hinkley, Curtis Hinrichsen, James Hodge, Jack Hodgson, Bob Hodson, Frank Hoffman, Carl Holcombe, Richard Horton, Kevin Hoshowski, Ken Hrycauk, Dave Hughes, Robert Hulen, Fred Hundley, Richard Hurd, James Hurlbut, Steve Hutcheson, Ken Ihlenburg, Fred Ingram, Jim Irace, Bill Irwin, Eric Isler, Jerry Ivers, James James, Larry Janes, Bob Janicki, Steven Japundza, Bob Jeens, Ken Johannsson, Johann Johnson, Jackie Johnson, Stephen Jones, Bryan Jones, Rob Jones, Russ Jonker, Bill Jordan, Thomas Jory, Rick Kampthorne, Hal Kayner, Dennis Keithley, Rick King, Da Ve Kirby, Dennis Kirby, Graham Kirtland, Charles Kitz, John Knezacek, Dan Knievel, Gerald Knoll, Bruce Kosta, Michael Kowalski, Ed Krueger, Dan Krueger, Scott Kuss, Charlie Laczko, Frank Sr. Lamb, Richard Lane, Kevin Lassen, Finn Laurence, Peter Laverty, Mike Lawson, John Leaf, Dave Lee, John Lee, Ric LeGare, Garry Leggette, Len Leonard, William Lerohl, Gaylen Lervold, Randy Lewis, Terry Lewis, Tim Ligon, Howard Lind, Laird Linebaugh, Jeffrey Loeber, Wayne Ludeman, Bruce Lutes, Rick Mac Donald, Lawrence MacKay, Alex Malczynski, Francis Mandell, Tom Marino, Anthony Marion, Chris Markert, Michael Marshall, Robert Martin, Tom Maxson, Phil Mazatuad, Mme Hyun Sook McElhoe, Bruce McFarlane, Lloyd McGee, Michael McHarry, Joe McHenry, Tedd McKibben, Gerald McNamara, Don Melder, Frank Melia, Tom Metzger, Stephen Meyers, John Miller, Jim & Dondi - Aircraft Technical Support Mitchell, Duane Moen, Craig Mojzisik, Allan Molzen, Jason Mondy, Malia Moore, Thomas Moore, Warren Morelli, Bill Morelli, William Morris, Daniel III Morrison, Mark Morrow, Dan Moulin, Roger Munn, Mike Murphy, Ray Jr. Neal, Danny Nellis, Michael Nelson, James Nelson, Jim Newell, Alan Nguyen, Thomas Nice, James Nicely, Vincent Norris, Rob Nowakowski, Donald Noyer, Robert Nuckolls, Robert Olendorf, Scott Olson, Larry Olson, Tom Orear, Jeffrey Owens, Laird Palinkas, Gary Pardue, Larry Paulson, Craig Peck, Bill & Kathy Peer, Michael - Jem Aviation Peryk, Dennis Peternel, Stanley Petersen, Eric Petersen, Paul Peterson, Alex Pflanzer, Randy Phillips, Mark Pickrell, Jim Pike, Richard Pinneo, George Pittenger, Dick Plathey, Claude Point, Jeff Polstra, Philip Porter, Richard Porter, Robert Potter, Mark Pretzsch, Robert Ragsdale, Bill Randolph, George Ransom, Ben Rathbun, Richard Reeck, Jay Reed, Derek Reed, Frank Reisdorfer, Mark Reynolds, Richard Richardson, Ray - Powersport Aviation Inc. Riedlinger, Paul Riley, Stuart Roach, Brian Rodgers, Brian Rosales, Paul Rowbotham, Charles Rowles, Les Rozendaal, Doug Rutherford, Ted Sa, Carlos Sager, Jim Sailer, Martin SanClemente, Andrew Sapp, Doug Sargent, Tom Sax, Samuel Schemmel, Grant Schippers, John Schmitt, Clayton Schneeflock, Robert Schrimmer, Mark Schwarz, Guillermo Selby, Jim - JKL Aviation Sales Seward, Douglas Shackleford, Howard Shafer, Jim Shank, Bill Sheets, Douglas Shenk, Doug Shepherd, Dallas Shettel, Maurice Shipley, Walter Sigmon, Harvey Silverstein, Chuck Sipp, Dick Slaughter, Mike Small, Thomas Smith, Clayton Smith, Edmund Smith, Philip Smith, Shelby Smithey, Lloyd Snyder, David Solecki, John Sparks, Timothy Stafford, David Staub, Skip Steer, Bill Stobbe, Bruce Stoffers, Larry Stone, James Strandjord, Eric Swaney, Mark Tauch, Eric Tauchen, Bryan Taylor, Tod Team Rocket Thayer, George Therrien, Michel Thistelthwaite, Geoffrey Thoman, Daniel Thomas, Lee Thomas, Tim Thompson, Michael Todd, John Tompkins, Jeff Tower, John True, George Tucker, Harold Tuton, Beauford Tyrrel, Charles Upshur, Bill Uribe, Guillermo Uribe, Gullermo Utterback, Thomas Van Der Sanden, Gert Vandervort, Ronald VanGrunsven, Stanley Varnes, William Volum, Peter Von Ruden, Dennis VonLindern, Paul Vosberg, Roy Waligroski, Gregg Walker, Tommy Walrath, Howard Ward, Ed Warren, John Washburn, Oliver Watson, Dennis Watson, Terrence Watson, William Webb, Randol Weber, Ed Weber, Edward Weller, Michael Wendel, Jim Wentzell, David Werner, Russ Werner, Russell Westridge, David Whelan, Thomas Whiler, Douglas Whitehead, Arthur Wiesel, Dan Wigney, John Williams, Jimmy Williams, Keith Williams, Lawrence Willig, Louis Wills, Mike Wilson, Billy Wittman, James Wood, Denton Wood, John Wood, Mark Worstell, Glen Worthington, Victor Wotring, Dale Wymer, Gerald Young, Charles Young, Rollin Youngblood, Barry Zeidman, Richard Zigaitis, Kestutis Zinkham, Ralph Zwart, Frank -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 18, 1999
From: Michael Brittain Crowell <britt(at)fortcollins.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99
Is there anyone besides me on this list? -- Britt -- "Smiling is not just a facial expression, its a way of life." Michael Brittain Crowell 9-1-98 -- "The Laws of Aerodynamics are unforgiving and the ground is hard." Michael Collins (1987) NetZero - Defenders of the Free World ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "mglantz(at)uswest.net
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Date: Dec 18, 1999
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99
Yes there is -4 builders out there.Mine has been slow going ,just getting the Fuse skined.Looks like I'll tear down the used engine I got,it's going to have to wait,my finish kit supposed to arrive before the new year!Is there life after ? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Shook" <skydiven(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99
Date: Dec 19, 1999
No sir...I'm lurking in here as well. The ground is indeed hard, :) Bill >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michael >Brittain Crowell >Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 11:55 PM >To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99 > > > > >Is there anyone besides me on this list? >-- >Britt >-- >"Smiling is not just a facial expression, its a way of life." > Michael Brittain Crowell 9-1-98 >-- >"The Laws of Aerodynamics are unforgiving and the ground is hard." > Michael Collins (1987) > > >NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil(at)pressenter.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99
Date: Dec 19, 1999
Hey, I'm here!! In the process of installing my engine (AeroSport 0-360). Looks of hookups and other time consuming tasks. But its only been 9 years!!! Doug Weiler, Hudson, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: mglantz(at)uswest.net by albqpop1.albq.uswest.net with SMTP; 19 Dec 1999 05 <":20:48.-0000"@matronics.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 11:20 PM Subject: Re: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99 > > Yes there is -4 builders out there.Mine has been slow going ,just getting the Fuse > skined.Looks like I'll tear down the used engine I got,it's going to have to wait,my > finish kit supposed to arrive before the new year!Is there life after ? > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 1999
From: EARL FORTNER <e.fortner(at)worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99
Dumb Question? How do I bring up the rv4 specific list? Since I am building a 4 I would like to be a participate if there are any out there. Earl putting in flap linkage on a RV4 Bill Shook wrote: > > > No sir...I'm lurking in here as well. The ground is indeed hard, :) > > Bill > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com > >[mailto:owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michael > >Brittain Crowell > >Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 11:55 PM > >To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > >Subject: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99 > > > > > > > > > >Is there anyone besides me on this list? > >-- > >Britt > >-- > >"Smiling is not just a facial expression, its a way of life." > > Michael Brittain Crowell 9-1-98 > >-- > >"The Laws of Aerodynamics are unforgiving and the ground is hard." > > Michael Collins (1987) > > > > > >NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "mglantz(at)uswest.net
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Date: Dec 19, 1999
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99
Great to see this list come to life.I don't have any specific questions yet,I'm sure plenty will pop up.I would enjoy hearing what other people have put in their pannels.I like the 6 pack but it eats alot of space for a mostly VFR a/c. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: GRENIER(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 20, 1999
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99
I am also lurking here, just compleating and RV-8 empanage to mount on the 4 fuse. The original empanage that I purchased completed turned out to be fataly flawed. The 8 empanage is a bit larger but all eht "experts" I checked with couldn't come up with any drop dead reasons and it fits perfectly. I am going to use a 180 and a C/S prop so the weight issue should be manageable. I am also very interested in what others are doing with their panel -- not much space there. Ray Grenier Nashua, NH ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Funk" <efunk(at)stny.lrun.com>
Subject: Also Lurking
Date: Dec 20, 1999
I also am lurking wondering if the RV4 list will take off. Here's a question from a new builder, but one who is gaining experience (making mistakes). I'm getting ready to build the elevator and by reading the "18 Years of the RV-Ator" I understand that RTV Silicone rubber should be applied where the stiffeners meet at the trailing edge. The question is where do I obtain RTV Silicone ? Is this the silicone caulk found at the hardware store ? Is it special ordered, and if so from whom ? Ed Funk Corning, NY RV4 Tail Feathers ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 20, 1999
From: WAYNE BONESTEEL <wayneb(at)oakweb.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99
> > Great to see this list come to life.I don't have any specific questions > yet,I'm sure plenty will pop up.I would enjoy hearing what other people have > put in their pannels.I like the 6 pack but it eats alot of space for a mostly > VFR a/c. 1. Attitude & directional gyro's 2. Apollo gps com GX65 3. Narco Txponder 4. Airspeed 5. Altimeter 6. Mech. Tach. (returned to Vans for replacement, 220 rpm off @2000 RPM.) 7. Vertical speed 8. EI OAT, CHT, EGT. 9. Isspro Fuel L & R, Amps, Volts, Oil Press, Oil Temp. (Oil Temp being replaced by Vans) 10. Uma Fuel press, & Suction. 11. Master switch & Ignition switch. 12. Primer push button. 13. Dimmer pot. 12. Boost pump & Nav lights & strobe toggle breakers. 13. 7 circuit breakers. I could E-mail an Autocad dwg file or fax a copy, just let me know. Wayne RV4 wing fairings. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 20, 1999
From: WAYNE BONESTEEL <wayneb(at)oakweb.com>
Subject: Re: Also Lurking
Ed you will probably get all sorts of info on this, some say you need RTV without etching acid but Vans says you need the etching to provide adhesion for the RTV. I bought mine at the local auto parts store, GE RTV in a tube. Wayne RV4 wing fairings. > > The question is where do I obtain RTV > Silicone ? Is this the silicone caulk found at the hardware store ? Is it > special ordered, and if so from whom ? > > Ed Funk > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
Subject: Help with F-442
Date: Dec 20, 1999
Ye-haw! There are other RV-4 builders out there! I need help with something... I am fabricating the F-442 mount pads that I believe the rudder pedals attach to. I see that the angle needs to be bent outward 5 deg. Exactly how do you do this? I tried pounding it with a mallet, I even left it clamped in the vice last night such that the vice was pushing the angle open. It still pops back to a 90 deg angle. What's the secret? -- Scott VanArtsdalen, MCSE Network Administrator Union Safe Deposit Bank 209-946-5116 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 20, 1999
From: EARL FORTNER <e.fortner(at)worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Also Lurking
you can find the GE RTV at hardwares, homedepot etc. Apply dab at stiffner trailing edge before bending. Ed Funk wrote: > > > I also am lurking wondering if the RV4 list will take off. Here's a > question from a new builder, but one who is gaining experience (making > mistakes). > > I'm getting ready to build the elevator and by reading the "18 Years of the > RV-Ator" I understand that RTV Silicone rubber should be applied where the > stiffeners meet at the trailing edge. The question is where do I obtain RTV > Silicone ? Is this the silicone caulk found at the hardware store ? Is it > special ordered, and if so from whom ? > > Ed Funk > Corning, NY > RV4 Tail Feathers > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 20, 1999
From: "Lemen, Ted Ce" <ted.ce.lemen(at)lmco.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99
I would like to see what you've got Wayne, The more ideas that I see the easier it will be to decide on my one. Go ahead and send the acocad file if you wouldn't mind. Thanks Ted Lemen from Denver. > -----Original Message----- > From: WAYNE BONESTEEL [SMTP:wayneb(at)oakweb.com] > Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 10:21 AM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/17/99 > > > > > > Great to see this list come to life.I don't have any specific questions > > yet,I'm sure plenty will pop up.I would enjoy hearing what other people > have > > put in their pannels.I like the 6 pack but it eats alot of space for a > mostly > > VFR a/c. > > 1. Attitude & directional gyro's > 2. Apollo gps com GX65 > 3. Narco Txponder > 4. Airspeed > 5. Altimeter > 6. Mech. Tach. (returned to Vans for replacement, 220 rpm off @2000 RPM.) > 7. Vertical speed > 8. EI OAT, CHT, EGT. > 9. Isspro Fuel L & R, Amps, Volts, Oil Press, Oil Temp. > (Oil Temp being replaced by Vans) > 10. Uma Fuel press, & Suction. > 11. Master switch & Ignition switch. > 12. Primer push button. > 13. Dimmer pot. > 12. Boost pump & Nav lights & strobe toggle breakers. > 13. 7 circuit breakers. > > I could E-mail an Autocad dwg file or fax a copy, just let me > know. > > Wayne RV4 wing fairings. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ken Glover" <wirraway(at)bravo.net.au>
Subject: Re: RTV
Date: Dec 21, 1999
<<< I'm getting ready to build the elevator and by reading the "18 Years of the > RV-Ator" I understand that RTV Silicone rubber should be applied where the > stiffeners meet at the trailing edge. > > Ed Funk>>> Hi Ed, When placing the RTV behind the stiffeners, be careful not to fill the entire gap to the trailing edge. This will tend to trap water, should any get in there. The best way to do the job, is to fit the 1/8 rod in the trailing edge, after you have finished forming the trailing edge. Make up a long "syringe"....piece of scrap tube, with plunger (does not have to be perfect), dab in some RTV, and inject into position. Let the RTV cure for a while and then remove the 1/8 rod. I could take a digital picture of the "syringe" if needed. This technique worked well. Cheers and have a great day, Ken Glover.....Hunter Valley...Australia RV4 VH-MKW 485hrs ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "mglantz(at)uswest.net
by albqpop1.albq.uswest.net with SMTP; 21 Dec 1999 03":38:06.-0000(at)matronics.com
Date: Dec 20, 1999
Subject: Re: Also Lurking
Wayne thanks for the auto cad offer,bring it on.It's just to cold in my garage to do any riviting today so thinking out my pannel is spending my time constructivly. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "mglantz(at)uswest.net
by albqpop1.albq.uswest.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 1999 21":29:30.-0000(at)matronics.com
Date: Dec 22, 1999
Subject: encoders
I'm thinking of purchasing a Transponder,is a encoder neccessary?What is a Blind Encoder? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 22, 1999
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/20/99
From: Stuart S drivS Driver <sdrivers(at)juno.com>
Glad to see the RV4 list is taking off. I am a long time builder, a demanding full time job and a full time family definitely interfere with the building process. I have been waiting to close the second wing for over a year now! I have just about finished building a hanger at a place called Treasure Coast Air Park in St. Lucie County FL It is presently the home for my '66 C150 (yes the flying also uses up building time). It crossed my mind that I should purchase a completed RV3 if the price was right, I have looked at a couple and would appreciate any leads. I have started my instrument panel and would be interested in the drawing offered on this list. My kit number is 1138 Phone 561-747-0225 Evenings. I would be pleased to offer advice based on my fairly limited experience. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley(at)accessus.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: encoders
Date: Dec 22, 1999
Just buying a transponder is almost a waste of money. Buying an encoder to go with it makes it worthwhile and one would be foolish not to have a transponder with encoder in a fast plane like an RV. It gives you so many positives, you really should not consider your plane equipped until you have them installed. Having just a transponder might make it handy for the controller but it won't get you into B and C controlled space as the controller doesn't have any altitude information. The addition of the encoder, even a blind encoder makes it possible to get into the controlled spaces. Incidentally, the blind encoder passes altitude information for the transponder to radio. You can get a encoder read out, but since you are more interested in the pressure compensated information of your altimeter, it is of little value to you, as it always is referenced to 29.92 instead of actual pressure. The ground station converts this information to actual by adding or subtracting their local pressure to your signal. This give them your actual and you can request what they read to check your altimeter. The transponder only transmits to the nearest 100 feet so your altimeter is more accurate. So what are the other positives, besides getting to go into controlled areas with controller's permission? Doesn't really sound that good, does it? First, because you can fly into C and D airspace, you don't have to deviate. No big deal yet. Didn't want the FAA to know where I was going anyway. Second, it makes you airplane look like a big airliner. The radar blip is enhanced to look like even AirForce One. The reflected radar return not as bright as when you are using a transponder. Especially when the brightness is returned down to remove ground clutter. Still no big deal! Third, it reduces your IFR work load as center knows where you are. But if you don't file, fly VFR... still no big deal. The BIG deal is TCAS. When you have a transponder-encoder, most heavy iron used by corporations and airlines also have a receiver for your radar transponder, encoder return. This automatically, tells the pilot with TCAS when you are about to back into their airplane. With the encoder, the pilot with TCAS also is told to turn or climb or dive to avoid you. This covers the blind spot behind you that you never see. TCAS also works when you are on any collision course with an airplane that has TCAS. Safety is improved and takes the human controller element out of the picture. Safety to avoid that "run down feeling" That is what your transponder-encoder does for you and everyone else in the system. Cy Galley - Editor, B-C Contact! (Click here to visit our Club site at http://www.bellanca-championclub.com) -----Original Message----- From: mglantz(at)uswest.net by albqpop1.albq.uswest.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 1999 21 <":29:30.-0000"@matronics.com> Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 3:43 PM Subject: RV-List: encoders >--> RV-List message posted by: mglantz(at)uswest.net by > >I'm thinking of purchasing a Transponder,is a encoder neccessary?What is a Blind Encoder? > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: GRENIER(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 23, 1999
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 12/20/99
I have a Aero Sport RV-4 steel fuse jig for sale. It has been used once and includes the birdcage. The jig is located in Nashua, NH and folds into the bed of a pickup truck. $700. Any NE builders interested? Call Ray at 603 889 3728 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 24, 1999
From: Scott <acepilot(at)mwt.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: encoders
Cy... Probably a typo on your post, but you don't need any transponder to enter U.S. Class D airspace...only communications :) Scott Cy Galley wrote: > > > So what are the other positives, besides getting to go into controlled areas > with controller's permission? Doesn't really sound that good, does it? > > First, because you can fly into C and D airspace, you don't have to deviate. -- --Scott-- 1986 Corben Junior Ace N3642 RV-4 under construction (tail feathers) Gotta Fly or Gonna Die! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Dec 29, 1999
Subject: Cable Length Question...
Hi Listers, I'm working on the engine controls on my RV-4 and have a question regarding cable lengths. I am mounting the Mixture control and Prop control on bulkhead F402BL and am wondering if anyone could give me the cable length requirements for each of these? The engine is Van's O360A1A with standard carb and either a Woodward or McCauley rear mounted prop governor. I don't have the engine mounted yet but would like to purchase the Mixture and Prop Vernier controls. ACS shows the A-750 in standard lengths of 3'/4'/5'/6'/7'/8'. Will one of these work or do I need a 'special' length? Thanks for the help, Matt Dralle RV-4 Builder #1763 -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 15, 2000
Subject: 1999 List of Contributors #2!
Dear Listers, Below is the final List of Contributors for 1999 as promised. Again, I would like to thank everyone that made a generous contribution in 1999 to support the continued operation of these email Lists. Your support directly makes the quality and quantity of this service possible. Thank you! Matt Dralle EMail List Administrator RV-4 Builder, #1763 - N442RV =================== 1999 List of Contributors #2 ==================== Adamson, Arden Allender, Patrick Anonymous from MN Asher, M.E. Baxter, Rob Bell, Doug Bendure, Ryan Bergh, David Berrie, Robert Blake, J.I. Boucher, Michel Bragg, Medford Briegleb, Ross Brietigam, Charles Broomell, Glenn Brusilow, Michael Chatham, Robert Clary, Buck Coats, Lonnie Cook, Craig - Golf Instruments Co. Cooper, James Cribb, William Jr. Crosby, Harry Dane, Bill Von Dziewiontkoski, Bob Ellenberger, Mike Embree, Roger Faatz, Mitch Fasching, John Gibbons, Robert Glauser, David Gold, Andy -Builder's Bookstore 10% Gregory, Steve Grenier, Raymond Guarino, Michael H., Harold - E.P.M.AV Corp Hale, Brian Hunt, Wallace Johnston, Leroy Jordon, Don Killion, Clay Klingmuller, Dr. L.M. Magaw, David Mains, Ralph Maltby, Michael Martin, Cliff - Martin Metal Fab Mazataud, Hyun Sook McBride, Duncan McDonald, James Mendenhall, Elbie - E.M Aviation Mitchell, Duane Morley, Harold Peck, Phil Pessel, Garnett Rodebush, James Ross, Jonathan Schmidt, John Scully, William Smith, Steven Spence, Stephen Triff, Wes Wagoner, Richard Weaver, Brian Wiegenstein, John Wiley, Robert Wilson, Donald -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 16, 2000
Subject: Confusion Over "List of Contributors"...
Hi Listers, I'm really sorry for the confusion over the most recent posting of the List of Contributors #2. List #2 contained only the contributor names *since* the List #1 was posted. So, if you weren't on List #2, you were likely on List #1. Below are URLs to each of the LOC #x postings. Again, sorry for the confusion. I should have made it more clear in the verbiage. Thanks to everyone, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================ List of Contributors #1 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO List of Contributors #2 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO ============================================================================ -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 16, 2000
From: Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: (Whoops) Confusion Over "List of Contributors"...
> >Okay, here are the *real* URLs. Sorry... > > >Matt Dralle >Email List Admin. > > >============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================ > > > List of Contributors #1 - 1999 > ------------------------------ > > >http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_ >of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO > > > List of Contributors #2 - 1999 > ------------------------------ > > >http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=53146?KEYS=list_ >of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=YES > > >============================================================================ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 16, 2000
Subject: Re: (No, Really - Here are the URLs) Confusion Over "List of
Contributors"... Geeze, I can't seem to type today. Here are the *real*, *REAL* URLs. Sorry for so many posts... Ack Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================ List of Contributors #1 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO List of Contributors #2 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=53146?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO ============================================================================ -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "J. Rion Bourgeois" <rion(at)worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RV-4 canopy latch
Date: Jan 25, 2000
I am at the decision point for my RV-4 canopy latch mechanism. I would like to use the standard latch mechanism in the plans, but it does not provide for a partially open position for ground operations. I have heard a rumor about a builder in the Seattle area who has designed a safety latch that allows use of the standard canopy latch and has a partially open position. Does anyone have his address and phone number or any suggested solutions? Thanx, Rion ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 26, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-4 canopy latch
Hi J; I used a pin from the nautilus weight room that holds the weights in the stack. I drilled a hole in my roll bar through the canopy bulkhead at a point on the entry side that left the canopy about 3 inches "above the rim" with the pin in. I used plastic bushings in the hole in the roll bar just like the ones for the rudder cables and drilled the pin so I could put a small cotter key and washer 2 inches from the end. Now I simply slide it into the hole in the canopy bulkhead on the ground and pull it back when I shut the canopy. It slides about 3 inches stop to stop. The cool part is when the canopy is down, the pin slides backwards OVER the top of the bulkhead preventing opening if the canopy lock should fail. See ya. Rob Ray smokyray(at)yahoo.com --- "J. Rion Bourgeois" wrote: > > > I am at the decision point for my RV-4 canopy latch > mechanism. I would like > to use the standard latch mechanism in the plans, > but it does not provide > for a partially open position for ground operations. > I have heard a rumor > about a builder in the Seattle area who has designed > a safety latch that > allows use of the standard canopy latch and has a > partially open position. > Does anyone have his address and phone number or any > suggested solutions? > Thanx, Rion > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "RION BOURGEOIS" <rion(at)worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: RV-4 canopy latch
Date: Jan 26, 2000
Sounds neat and simple. However, if the pin slides backwards over the canopy bulkhead, how do rescuers open the canopy to get you out? Got pictures? Rion ----- Original Message ----- From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:45 PM Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > Hi J; > > I used a pin from the nautilus weight room that > holds the weights in the stack. I drilled a hole in my > roll bar through the canopy bulkhead at a point on the > entry side that left the canopy about 3 inches "above > the rim" with the pin in. I used plastic bushings in > the hole in the roll bar just like the ones for the > rudder cables and drilled the pin so I could put a > small cotter key and washer 2 inches from the end. Now > I simply slide it into the hole in the canopy bulkhead > on the ground and pull it back when I shut the canopy. > It slides about 3 inches stop to stop. The cool part > is when the canopy is down, the pin slides backwards > OVER the top of the bulkhead preventing opening if the > canopy lock should fail. See ya. > > Rob Ray > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > --- "J. Rion Bourgeois" wrote: > > > > > > I am at the decision point for my RV-4 canopy latch > > mechanism. I would like > > to use the standard latch mechanism in the plans, > > but it does not provide > > for a partially open position for ground operations. > > I have heard a rumor > > about a builder in the Seattle area who has designed > > a safety latch that > > allows use of the standard canopy latch and has a > > partially open position. > > Does anyone have his address and phone number or any > > suggested solutions? > > Thanx, Rion > > > > > > > > through > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 28, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-4 canopy latch
Rion;' I'll try to take a photo for you. First, several egress considerations from a canopy aircraft are presented in the RV4. I have been flying the F-16 for 12 years now and it's canopy is exactly like the -4 except it weighs 390 pounds! It hinges at the rear and is electrically raised and lowered. It is explosively jettisonable with the pull of a T handle, or automatically during ejection. Our owners manual recommends ejection over "riding out" an off runway excursion. One pilot 15 years ago had a main gear failure and flipped over, trapping him for three hours until a fireman used a chainsaw to cut open the THREE inch thick (400 knot birdproof) plexiglass and free him. A fire would have made a different ending to the story. As RV's go, I have personally rescued one wary RV3 pilot after his -3's engine quit on takeoff putting him in a soft corfield on his back. He had a sliding canopy and we couldn't move it until we righted the airplane. He was so humbled by the experience that he redesigned his canopy to be jettisonable, installed a BRS and vowed never to land in a cornfield again. With 500 safe hours on my -4 now I can safely say that if anything requiring an off pavement, highway or otherwise non-prepared surface landing comes up, I am jettisoning my canopy prior to landing. With the locking pin, you simply reach over your left shoulder, pull the pin forward 2 inches and open the canopy. In normal circumstances in hot weather, you simply pull the pin, raise the canopy about 6 inches and slide the pin aft into the taxi position hole. I have a tear away canopy "restraint" that is made of steel with aluminum bolts. 80 knots should rip it off if I need to get rid of it. Thats why I like the pin, when it's shut, it won't blow open. Rob --- RION BOURGEOIS wrote: > > > Sounds neat and simple. However, if the pin slides > backwards over the > canopy bulkhead, how do rescuers open the canopy to > get you out? Got > pictures? Rion > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > Hi J; > > > > I used a pin from the nautilus weight room that > > holds the weights in the stack. I drilled a hole > in my > > roll bar through the canopy bulkhead at a point on > the > > entry side that left the canopy about 3 inches > "above > > the rim" with the pin in. I used plastic bushings > in > > the hole in the roll bar just like the ones for > the > > rudder cables and drilled the pin so I could put a > > small cotter key and washer 2 inches from the end. > Now > > I simply slide it into the hole in the canopy > bulkhead > > on the ground and pull it back when I shut the > canopy. > > It slides about 3 inches stop to stop. The cool > part > > is when the canopy is down, the pin slides > backwards > > OVER the top of the bulkhead preventing opening if > the > > canopy lock should fail. See ya. > > > > Rob Ray > > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > > --- "J. Rion Bourgeois" > wrote: > Bourgeois" > > > > > > > > > I am at the decision point for my RV-4 canopy > latch > > > mechanism. I would like > > > to use the standard latch mechanism in the > plans, > > > but it does not provide > > > for a partially open position for ground > operations. > > > I have heard a rumor > > > about a builder in the Seattle area who has > designed > > > a safety latch that > > > allows use of the standard canopy latch and has > a > > > partially open position. > > > Does anyone have his address and phone number or > any > > > suggested solutions? > > > Thanx, Rion > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" <James.Johnson(at)pentagon.af.mil>
Subject: RV-4 canopy latch
Date: Jan 28, 2000
Rob, Another question one could ask is what happens to the structural integrity of the roll bar with a rather large hole drilled through it supporting the pin? Of course, as my old instructor used to say, "At this point your luck has been quite miserable. What makes you think it's about to change. S--- happens!" Jj -----Original Message----- From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:16 PM Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch Rion;' I'll try to take a photo for you. First, several egress considerations from a canopy aircraft are presented in the RV4. I have been flying the F-16 for 12 years now and it's canopy is exactly like the -4 except it weighs 390 pounds! It hinges at the rear and is electrically raised and lowered. It is explosively jettisonable with the pull of a T handle, or automatically during ejection. Our owners manual recommends ejection over "riding out" an off runway excursion. One pilot 15 years ago had a main gear failure and flipped over, trapping him for three hours until a fireman used a chainsaw to cut open the THREE inch thick (400 knot birdproof) plexiglass and free him. A fire would have made a different ending to the story. As RV's go, I have personally rescued one wary RV3 pilot after his -3's engine quit on takeoff putting him in a soft corfield on his back. He had a sliding canopy and we couldn't move it until we righted the airplane. He was so humbled by the experience that he redesigned his canopy to be jettisonable, installed a BRS and vowed never to land in a cornfield again. With 500 safe hours on my -4 now I can safely say that if anything requiring an off pavement, highway or otherwise non-prepared surface landing comes up, I am jettisoning my canopy prior to landing. With the locking pin, you simply reach over your left shoulder, pull the pin forward 2 inches and open the canopy. In normal circumstances in hot weather, you simply pull the pin, raise the canopy about 6 inches and slide the pin aft into the taxi position hole. I have a tear away canopy "restraint" that is made of steel with aluminum bolts. 80 knots should rip it off if I need to get rid of it. Thats why I like the pin, when it's shut, it won't blow open. Rob --- RION BOURGEOIS wrote: > > > Sounds neat and simple. However, if the pin slides > backwards over the > canopy bulkhead, how do rescuers open the canopy to > get you out? Got > pictures? Rion > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > Hi J; > > > > I used a pin from the nautilus weight room that > > holds the weights in the stack. I drilled a hole > in my > > roll bar through the canopy bulkhead at a point on > the > > entry side that left the canopy about 3 inches > "above > > the rim" with the pin in. I used plastic bushings > in > > the hole in the roll bar just like the ones for > the > > rudder cables and drilled the pin so I could put a > > small cotter key and washer 2 inches from the end. > Now > > I simply slide it into the hole in the canopy > bulkhead > > on the ground and pull it back when I shut the > canopy. > > It slides about 3 inches stop to stop. The cool > part > > is when the canopy is down, the pin slides > backwards > > OVER the top of the bulkhead preventing opening if > the > > canopy lock should fail. See ya. > > > > Rob Ray > > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > > --- "J. Rion Bourgeois" > wrote: > Bourgeois" > > > > > > > > > I am at the decision point for my RV-4 canopy > latch > > > mechanism. I would like > > > to use the standard latch mechanism in the > plans, > > > but it does not provide > > > for a partially open position for ground > operations. > > > I have heard a rumor > > > about a builder in the Seattle area who has > designed > > > a safety latch that > > > allows use of the standard canopy latch and has > a > > > partially open position. > > > Does anyone have his address and phone number or > any > > > suggested solutions? > > > Thanx, Rion > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 01, 2000
From: Randy Freeman <notsofreeman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 01/28/00
Please take me off your e-mail list. Thanks Randy (6th request) --- RV4-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > > RV4-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Fri > 01/28/00: 2 > > > > > > From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > Rion;' > > > I'll try to take a photo for you. First, several > egress considerations from a canopy aircraft are > presented in the RV4. I have been flying the F-16 > for > 12 years now and it's canopy is exactly like the -4 > except it weighs 390 pounds! It hinges at the rear > and > is electrically raised and lowered. It is > explosively > jettisonable with the pull of a T handle, or > automatically during ejection. Our owners manual > recommends ejection over "riding out" an off runway > excursion. One pilot 15 years ago had a main gear > failure and flipped over, trapping him for three > hours > until a fireman used a chainsaw to cut open the > THREE > inch thick (400 knot birdproof) plexiglass and free > him. A fire would have made a different ending to > the > story. > As RV's go, I have personally rescued one wary RV3 > pilot after his -3's engine quit on takeoff putting > him in a soft corfield on his back. He had a sliding > canopy and we couldn't move it until we righted the > airplane. He was so humbled by the experience that > he > redesigned his canopy to be jettisonable, installed > a > BRS and vowed never to land in a cornfield again. > With > 500 safe hours on my -4 now I can safely say that if > anything requiring an off pavement, highway or > otherwise non-prepared surface landing comes up, I > am > jettisoning my canopy prior to landing. With the > locking pin, you simply reach over your left > shoulder, > pull the pin forward 2 inches and open the canopy. > In > normal circumstances in hot weather, you simply pull > the pin, raise the canopy about 6 inches and slide > the > pin aft into the taxi position hole. I have a tear > away canopy "restraint" that is made of steel with > aluminum bolts. 80 knots should rip it off if I need > to get rid of it. Thats why I like the pin, when > it's > shut, it won't blow open. > > Rob > > --- RION BOURGEOIS wrote: > > > > > > Sounds neat and simple. However, if the pin > slides > > backwards over the > > canopy bulkhead, how do rescuers open the canopy > to > > get you out? Got > > pictures? Rion > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi J; > > > > > > I used a pin from the nautilus weight room > that > > > holds the weights in the stack. I drilled a hole > > in my > > > roll bar through the canopy bulkhead at a point > on > > the > > > entry side that left the canopy about 3 inches > > "above > > > the rim" with the pin in. I used plastic > bushings > > in > > > the hole in the roll bar just like the ones for > > the > > > rudder cables and drilled the pin so I could put > a > > > small cotter key and washer 2 inches from the > end. > > Now > > > I simply slide it into the hole in the canopy > > bulkhead > > > on the ground and pull it back when I shut the > > canopy. > > > It slides about 3 inches stop to stop. The cool > > part > > > is when the canopy is down, the pin slides > > backwards > > > OVER the top of the bulkhead preventing opening > if > > the > > > canopy lock should fail. See ya. > > > > > > Rob Ray > > > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > > > --- "J. Rion Bourgeois" > > wrote: > > Bourgeois" > > > > > > > > > > > > I am at the decision point for my RV-4 canopy > > latch > > > > mechanism. I would like > > > > to use the standard latch mechanism in the > > plans, > > > > but it does not provide > > > > for a partially open position for ground > > operations. > > > > I have heard a rumor > > > > about a builder in the Seattle area who has > > designed > > > > a safety latch that > > > > allows use of the standard canopy latch and > has > > a > > > > partially open position. > > > > Does anyone have his address and phone number > or > > any > > > > suggested solutions? > > > > Thanx, Rion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! > Messenger. > > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > === message truncated === Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 01, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-4 canopy latch
It's a small hole, not too expensive....Just don't use the word Nee. How's life at the puzzle palace? I have been digging Southwest and flying up and down the Northen Cal coast. Alot of neat places to go out here. I still go back to Bama to fly the viper, but that's getting old real fast. I guess I'm spoiled. You get your cowling fixed? Smokey --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" wrote: > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > Rob, > > Another question one could ask is what happens to > the structural integrity > of the roll bar with a rather large hole drilled > through it supporting the > pin? > > Of course, as my old instructor used to say, "At > this point your luck has > been quite miserable. What makes you think it's > about to change. S--- > happens!" > > Jj > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:16 PM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > Rion;' > > > I'll try to take a photo for you. First, several > egress considerations from a canopy aircraft are > presented in the RV4. I have been flying the F-16 > for > 12 years now and it's canopy is exactly like the -4 > except it weighs 390 pounds! It hinges at the rear > and > is electrically raised and lowered. It is > explosively > jettisonable with the pull of a T handle, or > automatically during ejection. Our owners manual > recommends ejection over "riding out" an off runway > excursion. One pilot 15 years ago had a main gear > failure and flipped over, trapping him for three > hours > until a fireman used a chainsaw to cut open the > THREE > inch thick (400 knot birdproof) plexiglass and free > him. A fire would have made a different ending to > the > story. > As RV's go, I have personally rescued one wary RV3 > pilot after his -3's engine quit on takeoff putting > him in a soft corfield on his back. He had a sliding > canopy and we couldn't move it until we righted the > airplane. He was so humbled by the experience that > he > redesigned his canopy to be jettisonable, installed > a > BRS and vowed never to land in a cornfield again. > With > 500 safe hours on my -4 now I can safely say that if > anything requiring an off pavement, highway or > otherwise non-prepared surface landing comes up, I > am > jettisoning my canopy prior to landing. With the > locking pin, you simply reach over your left > shoulder, > pull the pin forward 2 inches and open the canopy. > In > normal circumstances in hot weather, you simply pull > the pin, raise the canopy about 6 inches and slide > the > pin aft into the taxi position hole. I have a tear > away canopy "restraint" that is made of steel with > aluminum bolts. 80 knots should rip it off if I need > to get rid of it. Thats why I like the pin, when > it's > shut, it won't blow open. > > Rob > > --- RION BOURGEOIS wrote: > > > > > > Sounds neat and simple. However, if the pin > slides > > backwards over the > > canopy bulkhead, how do rescuers open the canopy > to > > get you out? Got > > pictures? Rion > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi J; > > > > > > I used a pin from the nautilus weight room > that > > > holds the weights in the stack. I drilled a hole > > in my > > > roll bar through the canopy bulkhead at a point > on > > the > > > entry side that left the canopy about 3 inches > > "above > > > the rim" with the pin in. I used plastic > bushings > > in > > > the hole in the roll bar just like the ones for > > the > > > rudder cables and drilled the pin so I could put > a > > > small cotter key and washer 2 inches from the > end. > > Now > > > I simply slide it into the hole in the canopy > > bulkhead > > > on the ground and pull it back when I shut the > > canopy. > > > It slides about 3 inches stop to stop. The cool > > part > > > is when the canopy is down, the pin slides > > backwards > > > OVER the top of the bulkhead preventing opening > if > > the > > > canopy lock should fail. See ya. > > > > > > Rob Ray > > > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > > > --- "J. Rion Bourgeois" > > wrote: > > Bourgeois" > > > > > > > > > > > > I am at the decision point for my RV-4 canopy > > latch > > > > mechanism. I would like > > > > to use the standard latch mechanism in the > > plans, > > > > but it does not provide > > > > for a partially open position for ground > > operations. > > > > I have heard a rumor > > > > about a builder in the Seattle area who has > > designed > > > > a safety latch that > > > > allows use of the standard canopy latch and > has > > a > > > > partially open position. > > > > Does anyone have his address and phone number > or > > any > > > > suggested solutions? > > > > Thanx, Rion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________
From: RICKN106(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 02, 2000
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 02/01/00
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From: "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" <James.Johnson(at)pentagon.af.mil>
Subject: RV-4 canopy latch
Date: Feb 03, 2000
Not yet Dude. I haven't even been down to my beloved -4 in four weeks. I've been stuck up here, mostly stuck in SNOW. Keep it flying Smokey...I'm jealous! Jj -----Original Message----- From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:53 PM Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch It's a small hole, not too expensive....Just don't use the word Nee. How's life at the puzzle palace? I have been digging Southwest and flying up and down the Northen Cal coast. Alot of neat places to go out here. I still go back to Bama to fly the viper, but that's getting old real fast. I guess I'm spoiled. You get your cowling fixed? Smokey --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" wrote: > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > Rob, > > Another question one could ask is what happens to > the structural integrity > of the roll bar with a rather large hole drilled > through it supporting the > pin? > > Of course, as my old instructor used to say, "At > this point your luck has > been quite miserable. What makes you think it's > about to change. S--- > happens!" > > Jj > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:16 PM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > Rion;' > > > I'll try to take a photo for you. First, several > egress considerations from a canopy aircraft are > presented in the RV4. I have been flying the F-16 > for > 12 years now and it's canopy is exactly like the -4 > except it weighs 390 pounds! It hinges at the rear > and > is electrically raised and lowered. It is > explosively > jettisonable with the pull of a T handle, or > automatically during ejection. Our owners manual > recommends ejection over "riding out" an off runway > excursion. One pilot 15 years ago had a main gear > failure and flipped over, trapping him for three > hours > until a fireman used a chainsaw to cut open the > THREE > inch thick (400 knot birdproof) plexiglass and free > him. A fire would have made a different ending to > the > story. > As RV's go, I have personally rescued one wary RV3 > pilot after his -3's engine quit on takeoff putting > him in a soft corfield on his back. He had a sliding > canopy and we couldn't move it until we righted the > airplane. He was so humbled by the experience that > he > redesigned his canopy to be jettisonable, installed > a > BRS and vowed never to land in a cornfield again. > With > 500 safe hours on my -4 now I can safely say that if > anything requiring an off pavement, highway or > otherwise non-prepared surface landing comes up, I > am > jettisoning my canopy prior to landing. With the > locking pin, you simply reach over your left > shoulder, > pull the pin forward 2 inches and open the canopy. > In > normal circumstances in hot weather, you simply pull > the pin, raise the canopy about 6 inches and slide > the > pin aft into the taxi position hole. I have a tear > away canopy "restraint" that is made of steel with > aluminum bolts. 80 knots should rip it off if I need > to get rid of it. Thats why I like the pin, when > it's > shut, it won't blow open. > > Rob > > --- RION BOURGEOIS wrote: > > > > > > Sounds neat and simple. However, if the pin > slides > > backwards over the > > canopy bulkhead, how do rescuers open the canopy > to > > get you out? Got > > pictures? Rion > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi J; > > > > > > I used a pin from the nautilus weight room > that > > > holds the weights in the stack. I drilled a hole > > in my > > > roll bar through the canopy bulkhead at a point > on > > the > > > entry side that left the canopy about 3 inches > > "above > > > the rim" with the pin in. I used plastic > bushings > > in > > > the hole in the roll bar just like the ones for > > the > > > rudder cables and drilled the pin so I could put > a > > > small cotter key and washer 2 inches from the > end. > > Now > > > I simply slide it into the hole in the canopy > > bulkhead > > > on the ground and pull it back when I shut the > > canopy. > > > It slides about 3 inches stop to stop. The cool > > part > > > is when the canopy is down, the pin slides > > backwards > > > OVER the top of the bulkhead preventing opening > if > > the > > > canopy lock should fail. See ya. > > > > > > Rob Ray > > > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > > > --- "J. Rion Bourgeois" > > wrote: > > Bourgeois" > > > > > > > > > > > > I am at the decision point for my RV-4 canopy > > latch > > > > mechanism. I would like > > > > to use the standard latch mechanism in the > > plans, > > > > but it does not provide > > > > for a partially open position for ground > > operations. > > > > I have heard a rumor > > > > about a builder in the Seattle area who has > > designed > > > > a safety latch that > > > > allows use of the standard canopy latch and > has > > a > > > > partially open position. > > > > Does anyone have his address and phone number > or > > any > > > > suggested solutions? > > > > Thanx, Rion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 05, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-4 canopy latch
Dude; Flew mine out to the coast the other day and saw a bunch of whales, landed at a couple of cool beachfront airports and generally made a nuisance of myself. NoCal has alot to see and do especially if you have an airplane. Every airport it seems has a cafe with decent grub. Alot of RV's out there too. I'm in Bama this weekend flying the viper... BJRB --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" wrote: > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > Not yet Dude. I haven't even been down to my > beloved -4 in four weeks. > I've been stuck up here, mostly stuck in SNOW. Keep > it flying Smokey...I'm > jealous! > > Jj > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:53 PM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > It's a small hole, not too expensive....Just don't > use > the word Nee. How's life at the puzzle palace? I > have > been digging Southwest and flying up and down the > Northen Cal coast. Alot of neat places to go out > here. > I still go back to Bama to fly the viper, but that's > getting old real fast. I guess I'm spoiled. You get > your cowling fixed? > > Smokey > > --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" > wrote: > > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > > Rob, > > > > Another question one could ask is what happens to > > the structural integrity > > of the roll bar with a rather large hole drilled > > through it supporting the > > pin? > > > > Of course, as my old instructor used to say, "At > > this point your luck has > > been quite miserable. What makes you think it's > > about to change. S--- > > happens!" > > > > Jj > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:16 PM > > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > Rion;' > > > > > > I'll try to take a photo for you. First, several > > egress considerations from a canopy aircraft are > > presented in the RV4. I have been flying the F-16 > > for > > 12 years now and it's canopy is exactly like the > -4 > > except it weighs 390 pounds! It hinges at the rear > > and > > is electrically raised and lowered. It is > > explosively > > jettisonable with the pull of a T handle, or > > automatically during ejection. Our owners manual > > recommends ejection over "riding out" an off > runway > > excursion. One pilot 15 years ago had a main gear > > failure and flipped over, trapping him for three > > hours > > until a fireman used a chainsaw to cut open the > > THREE > > inch thick (400 knot birdproof) plexiglass and > free > > him. A fire would have made a different ending to > > the > > story. > > As RV's go, I have personally rescued one wary > RV3 > > pilot after his -3's engine quit on takeoff > putting > > him in a soft corfield on his back. He had a > sliding > > canopy and we couldn't move it until we righted > the > > airplane. He was so humbled by the experience that > > he > > redesigned his canopy to be jettisonable, > installed > > a > > BRS and vowed never to land in a cornfield again. > > With > > 500 safe hours on my -4 now I can safely say that > if > > anything requiring an off pavement, highway or > > otherwise non-prepared surface landing comes up, I > > am > > jettisoning my canopy prior to landing. With the > > locking pin, you simply reach over your left > > shoulder, > > pull the pin forward 2 inches and open the canopy. > > In > > normal circumstances in hot weather, you simply > pull > > the pin, raise the canopy about 6 inches and slide > > the > > pin aft into the taxi position hole. I have a tear > > away canopy "restraint" that is made of steel with > > aluminum bolts. 80 knots should rip it off if I > need > > to get rid of it. Thats why I like the pin, when > > it's > > shut, it won't blow open. > > > > Rob > > > > --- RION BOURGEOIS wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sounds neat and simple. However, if the pin > > slides > > > backwards over the > > > canopy bulkhead, how do rescuers open the canopy > > to > > > get you out? Got > > > pictures? Rion > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:45 PM > > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi J; > > > > > > > > I used a pin from the nautilus weight room > > that > > > > holds the weights in the stack. I drilled a > hole > > > in my > > > > roll bar through the canopy bulkhead at a > point > > on > > > the > > > > entry side that left the canopy about 3 inches > > > "above > > > > the rim" with the pin in. I used plastic > > bushings > > > in > > > > the hole in the roll bar just like the ones > for > > > the > > > > rudder cables and drilled the pin so I could > put > > a > > > > small cotter key and washer 2 inches from the > > end. > > > Now > > > > I simply slide it into the hole in the canopy > > > bulkhead > > > > on the ground and pull it back when I shut the > > > canopy. > > > > It slides about 3 inches stop to stop. The > cool > > > part > > > > is when the canopy is down, the pin slides > > > backwards > > > > OVER the top of the bulkhead preventing > opening > > if > > > the > > > > canopy lock should fail. See ya. > > > > > > > > Rob Ray > > > > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > > > > --- "J. Rion Bourgeois" > > > > wrote: > > > Bourgeois" > > > > > > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" <James.Johnson(at)pentagon.af.mil>
Subject: RV-4 canopy latch
Date: Feb 07, 2000
Awesome. Anyone help here: Currently I have a Sterba prop on my RV-4. It has been excellent and provides consistent 1900 fpm climb and 192 mph cruise. Following my flight yesterday, I was noticing that the wood prop is developing some hair line cracks midway up the blade on one side toward the leading edge. Long story short, I'm debating switching to a metal Sensinich (Sp?) propeller on my O-320 150hp RV-4. Anyone out there done the switch? What is involved (paper work and hand work) and is the metal prop BETTER performing than the wood prop? I do use my RV for acro but seem to (so far) have the discipline to NOT over RPM the engine!!! Jj -----Original Message----- From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 5:47 PM Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch Dude; Flew mine out to the coast the other day and saw a bunch of whales, landed at a couple of cool beachfront airports and generally made a nuisance of myself. NoCal has alot to see and do especially if you have an airplane. Every airport it seems has a cafe with decent grub. Alot of RV's out there too. I'm in Bama this weekend flying the viper... BJRB --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" wrote: > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > Not yet Dude. I haven't even been down to my > beloved -4 in four weeks. > I've been stuck up here, mostly stuck in SNOW. Keep > it flying Smokey...I'm > jealous! > > Jj > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:53 PM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > It's a small hole, not too expensive....Just don't > use > the word Nee. How's life at the puzzle palace? I > have > been digging Southwest and flying up and down the > Northen Cal coast. Alot of neat places to go out > here. > I still go back to Bama to fly the viper, but that's > getting old real fast. I guess I'm spoiled. You get > your cowling fixed? > > Smokey > > --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" > wrote: > > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > > Rob, > > > > Another question one could ask is what happens to > > the structural integrity > > of the roll bar with a rather large hole drilled > > through it supporting the > > pin? > > > > Of course, as my old instructor used to say, "At > > this point your luck has > > been quite miserable. What makes you think it's > > about to change. S--- > > happens!" > > > > Jj > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:16 PM > > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > Rion;' > > > > > > I'll try to take a photo for you. First, several > > egress considerations from a canopy aircraft are > > presented in the RV4. I have been flying the F-16 > > for > > 12 years now and it's canopy is exactly like the > -4 > > except it weighs 390 pounds! It hinges at the rear > > and > > is electrically raised and lowered. It is > > explosively > > jettisonable with the pull of a T handle, or > > automatically during ejection. Our owners manual > > recommends ejection over "riding out" an off > runway > > excursion. One pilot 15 years ago had a main gear > > failure and flipped over, trapping him for three > > hours > > until a fireman used a chainsaw to cut open the > > THREE > > inch thick (400 knot birdproof) plexiglass and > free > > him. A fire would have made a different ending to > > the > > story. > > As RV's go, I have personally rescued one wary > RV3 > > pilot after his -3's engine quit on takeoff > putting > > him in a soft corfield on his back. He had a > sliding > > canopy and we couldn't move it until we righted > the > > airplane. He was so humbled by the experience that > > he > > redesigned his canopy to be jettisonable, > installed > > a > > BRS and vowed never to land in a cornfield again. > > With > > 500 safe hours on my -4 now I can safely say that > if > > anything requiring an off pavement, highway or > > otherwise non-prepared surface landing comes up, I > > am > > jettisoning my canopy prior to landing. With the > > locking pin, you simply reach over your left > > shoulder, > > pull the pin forward 2 inches and open the canopy. > > In > > normal circumstances in hot weather, you simply > pull > > the pin, raise the canopy about 6 inches and slide > > the > > pin aft into the taxi position hole. I have a tear > > away canopy "restraint" that is made of steel with > > aluminum bolts. 80 knots should rip it off if I > need > > to get rid of it. Thats why I like the pin, when > > it's > > shut, it won't blow open. > > > > Rob > > > > --- RION BOURGEOIS wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sounds neat and simple. However, if the pin > > slides > > > backwards over the > > > canopy bulkhead, how do rescuers open the canopy > > to > > > get you out? Got > > > pictures? Rion > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:45 PM > > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi J; > > > > > > > > I used a pin from the nautilus weight room > > that > > > > holds the weights in the stack. I drilled a > hole > > > in my > > > > roll bar through the canopy bulkhead at a > point > > on > > > the > > > > entry side that left the canopy about 3 inches > > > "above > > > > the rim" with the pin in. I used plastic > > bushings > > > in > > > > the hole in the roll bar just like the ones > for > > > the > > > > rudder cables and drilled the pin so I could > put > > a > > > > small cotter key and washer 2 inches from the > > end. > > > Now > > > > I simply slide it into the hole in the canopy > > > bulkhead > > > > on the ground and pull it back when I shut the > > > canopy. > > > > It slides about 3 inches stop to stop. The > cool > > > part > > > > is when the canopy is down, the pin slides > > > backwards > > > > OVER the top of the bulkhead preventing > opening > > if > > > the > > > > canopy lock should fail. See ya. > > > > > > > > Rob Ray > > > > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > > > > --- "J. Rion Bourgeois" > > > > wrote: > > > Bourgeois" > > > > > > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 08, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-4 canopy latch
Jim; I mulled over the same question recently too. My Sterba has given 4 years of great service but is aging quickly. A friend of mine in PHX removed his wood prop recently in favor of heavy metal, and sent it back after one flight. VIBRATION was noticeably higher. So back to the wood. However, Mark Spry, a -4 driver in AL has a fixed pitch Sensy metal and had it balanced at a prop shop prior to installation with good results. Your call. I am holding out for the Global QCS caron fiber prop out of MS. See ya. Smokey --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" wrote: > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > Awesome. Anyone help here: Currently I have a > Sterba prop on my RV-4. It > has been excellent and provides consistent 1900 fpm > climb and 192 mph > cruise. Following my flight yesterday, I was > noticing that the wood prop is > developing some hair line cracks midway up the blade > on one side toward the > leading edge. Long story short, I'm debating > switching to a metal Sensinich > (Sp?) propeller on my O-320 150hp RV-4. Anyone out > there done the switch? > What is involved (paper work and hand work) and is > the metal prop BETTER > performing than the wood prop? I do use my RV for > acro but seem to (so far) > have the discipline to NOT over RPM the engine!!! > > Jj > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 5:47 PM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > Dude; > > Flew mine out to the coast the other day and saw a > bunch of whales, landed at a couple of cool > beachfront > airports and generally made a nuisance of myself. > NoCal has alot to see and do especially if you have > an > airplane. Every airport it seems has a cafe with > decent grub. Alot of RV's out there too. I'm in Bama > this weekend flying the viper... > > BJRB > > --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" > wrote: > > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > > Not yet Dude. I haven't even been down to my > > beloved -4 in four weeks. > > I've been stuck up here, mostly stuck in SNOW. > Keep > > it flying Smokey...I'm > > jealous! > > > > Jj > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:53 PM > > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > It's a small hole, not too expensive....Just don't > > use > > the word Nee. How's life at the puzzle palace? I > > have > > been digging Southwest and flying up and down the > > Northen Cal coast. Alot of neat places to go out > > here. > > I still go back to Bama to fly the viper, but > that's > > getting old real fast. I guess I'm spoiled. You > get > > your cowling fixed? > > > > Smokey > > > > --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" > > wrote: > > > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > > > > Rob, > > > > > > Another question one could ask is what happens > to > > > the structural integrity > > > of the roll bar with a rather large hole drilled > > > through it supporting the > > > pin? > > > > > > Of course, as my old instructor used to say, "At > > > this point your luck has > > > been quite miserable. What makes you think it's > > > about to change. S--- > > > happens!" > > > > > > Jj > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:16 PM > > > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rion;' > > > > > > > > > I'll try to take a photo for you. First, > several > > > egress considerations from a canopy aircraft are > > > presented in the RV4. I have been flying the > F-16 > > > for > > > 12 years now and it's canopy is exactly like the > > -4 > > > except it weighs 390 pounds! It hinges at the > rear > > > and > > > is electrically raised and lowered. It is > > > explosively > > > jettisonable with the pull of a T handle, or > > > automatically during ejection. Our owners manual > > > recommends ejection over "riding out" an off > > runway > > > excursion. One pilot 15 years ago had a main > gear > > > failure and flipped over, trapping him for three > > > hours > > > until a fireman used a chainsaw to cut open the > > > THREE > > > inch thick (400 knot birdproof) plexiglass and > > free > > > him. A fire would have made a different ending > to > > > the > > > story. > > > As RV's go, I have personally rescued one wary > > RV3 > > > pilot after his -3's engine quit on takeoff > > putting > > > him in a soft corfield on his back. He had a > > sliding > > > canopy and we couldn't move it until we righted > > the > > > airplane. He was so humbled by the experience > that > > > he > > > redesigned his canopy to be jettisonable, > > installed > > > a > > > BRS and vowed never to land in a cornfield > again. > > > With > > > 500 safe hours on my -4 now I can safely say > that > > if > > > anything requiring an off pavement, highway or > > > otherwise non-prepared surface landing comes up, > I > > > am > > > jettisoning my canopy prior to landing. With the > > > locking pin, you simply reach over your left > > > shoulder, > > > pull the pin forward 2 inches and open the > canopy. > > > In > > > normal circumstances in hot weather, you simply > > pull > > > the pin, raise the canopy about 6 inches and > slide > > > the > > > pin aft into the taxi position hole. I have a > tear > > > away canopy "restraint" that is made of steel > with > > > aluminum bolts. 80 knots should rip it off if I > > need > > > to get rid of it. Thats why I like the pin, when > > > it's > > > shut, it won't blow open. > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > --- RION BOURGEOIS > wrote: > BOURGEOIS" > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" <James.Johnson(at)pentagon.af.mil>
Subject: RV-4 canopy latch
Date: Feb 09, 2000
Smokey, Balancing is VERY important, especially on the light weight of our aircraft. The prop on my Mooney was balanced and the difference was incredible! I'm assuming you have to go through the FAA again and get another flight fly-off restriction for the Airthworthiness Cert again etc. Anyone out there flying with a metal Sensi on their RV-4? Besides the obvious benefits of no rain damage and no bolt torqueing, the weight up front would be helpful for bigger Bubba's in the back, like me when my wife is flying! Jj -----Original Message----- From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 9:24 PM Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch Jim; I mulled over the same question recently too. My Sterba has given 4 years of great service but is aging quickly. A friend of mine in PHX removed his wood prop recently in favor of heavy metal, and sent it back after one flight. VIBRATION was noticeably higher. So back to the wood. However, Mark Spry, a -4 driver in AL has a fixed pitch Sensy metal and had it balanced at a prop shop prior to installation with good results. Your call. I am holding out for the Global QCS caron fiber prop out of MS. See ya. Smokey --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" wrote: > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > Awesome. Anyone help here: Currently I have a > Sterba prop on my RV-4. It > has been excellent and provides consistent 1900 fpm > climb and 192 mph > cruise. Following my flight yesterday, I was > noticing that the wood prop is > developing some hair line cracks midway up the blade > on one side toward the > leading edge. Long story short, I'm debating > switching to a metal Sensinich > (Sp?) propeller on my O-320 150hp RV-4. Anyone out > there done the switch? > What is involved (paper work and hand work) and is > the metal prop BETTER > performing than the wood prop? I do use my RV for > acro but seem to (so far) > have the discipline to NOT over RPM the engine!!! > > Jj > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 5:47 PM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > Dude; > > Flew mine out to the coast the other day and saw a > bunch of whales, landed at a couple of cool > beachfront > airports and generally made a nuisance of myself. > NoCal has alot to see and do especially if you have > an > airplane. Every airport it seems has a cafe with > decent grub. Alot of RV's out there too. I'm in Bama > this weekend flying the viper... > > BJRB > > --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" > wrote: > > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > > Not yet Dude. I haven't even been down to my > > beloved -4 in four weeks. > > I've been stuck up here, mostly stuck in SNOW. > Keep > > it flying Smokey...I'm > > jealous! > > > > Jj > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:53 PM > > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > It's a small hole, not too expensive....Just don't > > use > > the word Nee. How's life at the puzzle palace? I > > have > > been digging Southwest and flying up and down the > > Northen Cal coast. Alot of neat places to go out > > here. > > I still go back to Bama to fly the viper, but > that's > > getting old real fast. I guess I'm spoiled. You > get > > your cowling fixed? > > > > Smokey > > > > --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" > > wrote: > > > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > > > > Rob, > > > > > > Another question one could ask is what happens > to > > > the structural integrity > > > of the roll bar with a rather large hole drilled > > > through it supporting the > > > pin? > > > > > > Of course, as my old instructor used to say, "At > > > this point your luck has > > > been quite miserable. What makes you think it's > > > about to change. S--- > > > happens!" > > > > > > Jj > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:16 PM > > > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rion;' > > > > > > > > > I'll try to take a photo for you. First, > several > > > egress considerations from a canopy aircraft are > > > presented in the RV4. I have been flying the > F-16 > > > for > > > 12 years now and it's canopy is exactly like the > > -4 > > > except it weighs 390 pounds! It hinges at the > rear > > > and > > > is electrically raised and lowered. It is > > > explosively > > > jettisonable with the pull of a T handle, or > > > automatically during ejection. Our owners manual > > > recommends ejection over "riding out" an off > > runway > > > excursion. One pilot 15 years ago had a main > gear > > > failure and flipped over, trapping him for three > > > hours > > > until a fireman used a chainsaw to cut open the > > > THREE > > > inch thick (400 knot birdproof) plexiglass and > > free > > > him. A fire would have made a different ending > to > > > the > > > story. > > > As RV's go, I have personally rescued one wary > > RV3 > > > pilot after his -3's engine quit on takeoff > > putting > > > him in a soft corfield on his back. He had a > > sliding > > > canopy and we couldn't move it until we righted > > the > > > airplane. He was so humbled by the experience > that > > > he > > > redesigned his canopy to be jettisonable, > > installed > > > a > > > BRS and vowed never to land in a cornfield > again. > > > With > > > 500 safe hours on my -4 now I can safely say > that > > if > > > anything requiring an off pavement, highway or > > > otherwise non-prepared surface landing comes up, > I > > > am > > > jettisoning my canopy prior to landing. With the > > > locking pin, you simply reach over your left > > > shoulder, > > > pull the pin forward 2 inches and open the > canopy. > > > In > > > normal circumstances in hot weather, you simply > > pull > > > the pin, raise the canopy about 6 inches and > slide > > > the > > > pin aft into the taxi position hole. I have a > tear > > > away canopy "restraint" that is made of steel > with > > > aluminum bolts. 80 knots should rip it off if I > > need > > > to get rid of it. Thats why I like the pin, when > > > it's > > > shut, it won't blow open. > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > --- RION BOURGEOIS > wrote: > BOURGEOIS" > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 11, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: prop me up!
JJ; I agree. I balanced my 0-320's internal parts when I rebuilt it, installed a Jeff Rose ignition and the difference was AMAZING. My "balanced" Sterba will turn 2850 in military power now at 5000' with incredible smoothness. I also have a Mark Landoll harmonic balancer up front which helps the CG and smoothness. It weighs 14 lbs. The metal sensy is a good prop and with a visit from Steve at good vibrations balancing, it can be fairly smooth I'm told. However, I could buy alot of gas with 2 grand. By the way, once the airplane is signed off, a prop change is a logbook entry. The sensy prop is experimental, but it depends on the FSDO as to the demo hours. I like the wood props ability to absorb vibration and not act like a flywheel during aerobatics. If I could have my druthers, I would save up and buy an MT composite or a hoffman auto-pitch and be done with it. (Hoffman and MT make composite props for airliners) Hoffmans US sales rep lives at the Marion, NC airport, a beautiful grass strip and worth a visit. The 2 blade Hoffman automatically advances the pitch with RPM and has been highly sucessful in Germany on motorgliders. It is wood covered with carbon graphite. The MT 3 blade is spendy, but the absolute best you can buy, in my opinion. Hoffman has a demo prop on a skybolt right now. The other option is to have Ed Sterba build you a custom prop with graphite tips. On Flying Pax, be sure your tanks are full as that helps alot. Bottom line, the rear seat in an RV4 was designed for little people, ie..girls. Unless of course you'd rather haul guys.....ha. Smokey --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" wrote: > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > Smokey, > > Balancing is VERY important, especially on the light > weight of our aircraft. > The prop on my Mooney was balanced and the > difference was incredible! I'm > assuming you have to go through the FAA again and > get another flight fly-off > restriction for the Airthworthiness Cert again etc. > Anyone out there flying > with a metal Sensi on their RV-4? > > Besides the obvious benefits of no rain damage and > no bolt torqueing, the > weight up front would be helpful for bigger Bubba's > in the back, like me > when my wife is flying! > > Jj > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 9:24 PM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > Jim; > > I mulled over the same question recently too. My > Sterba has given 4 years of great service but is > aging > quickly. A friend of mine in PHX removed his wood > prop > recently in favor of heavy metal, and sent it back > after one flight. VIBRATION was noticeably higher. > So > back to the wood. However, Mark Spry, a -4 driver in > AL has a fixed pitch Sensy metal and had it balanced > at a prop shop prior to installation with good > results. Your call. I am holding out for the Global > QCS caron fiber prop out of MS. See ya. > > Smokey > > --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" > wrote: > > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > > Awesome. Anyone help here: Currently I have a > > Sterba prop on my RV-4. It > > has been excellent and provides consistent 1900 > fpm > > climb and 192 mph > > cruise. Following my flight yesterday, I was > > noticing that the wood prop is > > developing some hair line cracks midway up the > blade > > on one side toward the > > leading edge. Long story short, I'm debating > > switching to a metal Sensinich > > (Sp?) propeller on my O-320 150hp RV-4. Anyone > out > > there done the switch? > > What is involved (paper work and hand work) and is > > the metal prop BETTER > > performing than the wood prop? I do use my RV for > > acro but seem to (so far) > > have the discipline to NOT over RPM the engine!!! > > > > Jj > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 5:47 PM > > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > Dude; > > > > Flew mine out to the coast the other day and saw > a > > bunch of whales, landed at a couple of cool > > beachfront > > airports and generally made a nuisance of myself. > > NoCal has alot to see and do especially if you > have > > an > > airplane. Every airport it seems has a cafe with > > decent grub. Alot of RV's out there too. I'm in > Bama > > this weekend flying the viper... > > > > BJRB > > > > --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" > > wrote: > > > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > > > > Not yet Dude. I haven't even been down to my > > > beloved -4 in four weeks. > > > I've been stuck up here, mostly stuck in SNOW. > > Keep > > > it flying Smokey...I'm > > > jealous! > > > > > > Jj > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:53 PM > > > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > > > Subject: RE: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a small hole, not too expensive....Just > don't > > > use > > > the word Nee. How's life at the puzzle palace? I > > > have > > > been digging Southwest and flying up and down > the > > > Northen Cal coast. Alot of neat places to go out > > > here. > > > I still go back to Bama to fly the viper, but > > that's > > > getting old real fast. I guess I'm spoiled. You > > get > > > your cowling fixed? > > > > > > Smokey > > > > > > --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > wrote: > James, > > > > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > > > > > > Rob, > > > > > > > > Another question one could ask is what happens > > to > > > > the structural integrity > > > > of the roll bar with a rather large hole > drilled > > > > through it supporting the > > > > pin? > > > > > > > > Of course, as my old instructor used to say, > "At > > > > this point your luck has > > > > been quite miserable. What makes you think > it's > > > > about to change. S--- > > > > happens!" > > > > > > > > Jj > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:16 PM > > > > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > > > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV-4 canopy latch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rion;' > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to take a photo for you. First, > > several > > > > egress considerations from a canopy aircraft > are > > > > presented in the RV4. I have been flying the > > F-16 > > > > for > > > > 12 years now and it's canopy is exactly like > the > > > -4 > > > > except it weighs 390 pounds! It hinges at the > > rear > > > > and > > > > is electrically raised and lowered. It is > > > > explosively > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Shook" <skydiven(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: prop me up!
Date: Feb 11, 2000
> Bottom line, the rear seat in an RV4 was > designed for little people, ie..girls. Perhaps. But I'm a 5'10" 180lb man and I was VERY comfortable in the back of the RV-4. It did have the foot wells and I could see how without them it would be considerably less comfy......but I was comfortable enough to make the -4 my choice. Bill ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 12, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: prop me up!
Hi Bill; The RV4 is my choice too, and I have over 500 hours in my -4, but I still take girls in the back above guys any day. I left the footwells out and am planning to retrofit soon.... Smokey --- Bill Shook wrote: > > > > Bottom line, the rear seat in an RV4 was > > designed for little people, ie..girls. > > > Perhaps. But I'm a 5'10" 180lb man and I was VERY > comfortable in the back > of the RV-4. It did have the foot wells and I > could see how without them > it would be considerably less comfy......but I was > comfortable enough to > make the -4 my choice. > > Bill > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 13, 2000
From: Sam Knight <knightair(at)lv.rmci.net>
Subject: Knight Upholstery New Lower Prices
RV-4 Builders: I have been in the upholstery business for 28 years and have been making upholstery products for kitplanes for 16 years. I have interior kits available for RV-4, RV-6, RV-6A, and RV-8. I also have cabin covers and other items. I am the supplier of upholstery products for several kitplane manufacturers. A list of other kitplane interior products available upon request. For more information, call Knight Aircraft Interiors, Inc., at (702) 207-6681 or e-mail me at knightair(at)lv.rmci.net. If you e- mail for information, please mention either "Knight" or "Upholstery" in your reference line so I can give your request my immediate attention. Photos available upon request. Sincerely, KNIGHT AIRCRAFT INTERIORS, INC. "Fly by Knight" Upholstery Products Sam Knight ________________________________________________________________________________
From: GRENIER(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 14, 2000
Subject: Re: Knight Upholstery New Lower Prices
Sam, I am just about ready to start thinking about upholstery for my 4. Can you please send me prices and perhaps a picture. Thanks, Ray Grenier, 22 Dublin Ave, Nashua, NH 03063 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Feb 15, 2000
Subject: Internet Explorer and List Subscription Page Problem...
Listers, I have just identified a problem between any version of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and the email List Subscription Form found at http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Please note that this problem *ONLY* affects users of Internet Explorer! Netscape users are *not* affected by the issue. Users of Internet Explorer should use the Netscape browser for now until a work around can be developed. IMPORTANT: If you have tried to subscribe *or* unsubscribe from any of the following email lists using *Internet Explorer* since the announcement of the 7 new Email Lists this past weekend, your request was not properly received and you should resubmit the request using the Netscape Browser, or wait until a solution for the problem with Internet Explorer is completed. The Lists affected by the Internet Explorer issue are: RVCanada-List RVEurope-List Skymaster-List SmithMini-List Sonerai-List Tailwind-List Please note that the Netscape Browser *IS NOT* affected by this problem and all lists can be subscribed to and unsubscribed from without a problem. I will post a message to the Lists when I have come up with a solution to this problem. Sorry for the inconvenience, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Feb 15, 2000
"Internet Explorer and List Subscription Page Problem..." (Feb 15, 10:19am)
Subject: Re: Web Subscription Page Operation for Internet Explorer Restored...
Dear Listers, I have rewritten the web page and CGI code for processing List Subscription Requests to now be more compatible with command line limitations of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and some very old versions of Netscape. The page seems to be working fine now on whatever browser I try. Please feel free to resume your normal List Subscription habits. The URL is: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. >-------------- > > >Listers, > >I have just identified a problem between any version of Microsoft's >Internet Explorer and the email List Subscription Form found at >http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Please note that this problem >*ONLY* affects users of Internet Explorer! Netscape users are >*not* affected by the issue. Users of Internet Explorer should >use the Netscape browser for now until a work around can be >developed. > >IMPORTANT: > >If you have tried to subscribe *or* unsubscribe from any of the >following email lists using *Internet Explorer* since the announcement of >the 7 new Email Lists this past weekend, your request was not properly >received and you should resubmit the request using the Netscape >Browser, or wait until a solution for the problem with Internet Explorer >is completed. The Lists affected by the Internet Explorer issue are: > > RVCanada-List > RVEurope-List > Sailplane-List > Seaplane-List > Skymaster-List > SmithMini-List > Sonerai-List > Tailwind-List > Ultralight-List > Warbird-List > Yak-List > Zenith-List > > >Please note that the Netscape Browser *IS NOT* affected by this problem >and all lists can be subscribed to and unsubscribed from without a >problem. > >I will post a message to the Lists when I have come up with a solution >to this problem. > >Sorry for the inconvenience, > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Admin. >-------------- -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 16, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Knight Upholstery New Lower Prices
Ray; I used Becky Orndorff in Dallas and she made me very nice seat covers for my -4 for a reasonable price. Cleveland Tool in Iowa also has nice interiors. I didn't use any other upolstery in the airplane ala' military and weight. Rob Ray --- GRENIER(at)aol.com wrote: > > Sam, I am just about ready to start thinking about > upholstery for my 4. Can > you please send me prices and perhaps a picture. > Thanks, Ray Grenier, 22 > Dublin Ave, Nashua, NH 03063 > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "RION BOURGEOIS" <rion(at)worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RV-4 builder's tip; fuselage.
Date: Mar 02, 2000
One of the last items on the fuselage is drilling and riveting on the rear top skin. To ensure that the rear canopy frame bow lines up with the rear seat fuselage bulkhead, wait until your finishing kit arrives with the canopy frame before you drill the rear top skin to the fuselage. Rion Bourgeois ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Mar 25, 2000
Subject: Two New, Early-Model RV-4 Cowls For Sale...
RV-4 Builders and Flyers, I recently purchased a Constant Speed Prop for my RV-4 project and no longer need my old-style Cowlings. I would like to sell them and have the information below on each and have also included pictures of them. I'm willing to ship them where ever you'd like, but any costs incurred will be your responsibility. I can accept Visa or M/C for a 3% additional charge. Please respond via email to the address below if you have any questions or would like to buy one or both: dralle(at)matronics.com Thank you, Matt Dralle RV-4 Builder, #1763 Circa 1988 RV-4 Cowling ----------------------- - New, Never Used, Van's Finish Kit Issue - Small Intake - Long-style, Requires Prop Extension - O320 Only? - $350 + Shipping + Crating http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/88Cowl1.jpg http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/88Cowl2.jpg http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/88Cowl3.jpg Circa 1993 RV-4 Cowling ----------------------- - New, Never Used, Ordered Direct From Van's - Large Intake - Long-style, Requires Prop Extension - O320 or O360 - $400 + Shipping + Crating http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/93Cowl1.jpg http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/93Cowl2.jpg http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/93Cowl3.jpg -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Apr 01, 2000
Subject: New RV-4 Cowlings For Sale - PRICE REDUCTION!
RV-4 Builders & Flyers, I got a couple of nibbles on the RV-4 cowlings I put up for sale last week but they are still available. I need the space and want them out of here so I've dropped the price on each of them by $100! It's a heck of a deal so snap these babys up!!! Please! Matt Dralle RV-4 #1763 =========================================================================== Circa 1988 RV-4 Cowling ----------------------- - New, Never Used, Van's Finish Kit Issue - Small Intake - Long-style, Requires Prop Extension - Polyester/fiberglass, Gellcoated - Includes misc. fiberglass pieces, but not hinges, etc. - O320 Only? - $250 + Shipping + Crating (was $350!) http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/88Cowl1.jpg http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/88Cowl2.jpg http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/88Cowl3.jpg Circa 1993 RV-4 Cowling ----------------------- - New, Never Used, Ordered Direct From Van's - Large Intake - Long-style, Requires Prop Extension - Polyester/fiberglass, Gellcoated - Includes misc. fiberglass pieces, but not hinges, etc. - O320 or O360 - $300 + Shipping + Crating (was $400!) http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/93Cowl1.jpg http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/93Cowl2.jpg http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV4/MiscPictures/93Cowl3.jpg =========================================================================== > RV-4 Builders and Flyers, > > I recently purchased a Constant Speed Prop for my RV-4 project and no > longer need my old-style Cowlings. I would like to sell them and have > the information below on each and have also included pictures of > them. I'm willing to ship them where ever you'd like, but any costs > incurred will be your responsibility. I can accept Visa or M/C for a 3% > additional charge. > > Please respond via email to the address below if you have any questions > or would like to buy one or both: > > dralle(at)matronics.com > > > Thank you, > > Matt Dralle > RV-4 Builder, #1763 > -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Apr 06, 2000
Subject: NOTICE: Matronics Web Server Back Online...
Dear Email Listers, The Matronics Web and FTP server is finally back online! What a nightmare... But at least its finally done and in all honesty the system is running much better. Everything should be working now including the Search Engine, Archive Browser, various List-related pages, Matronics Product Pages, Online Ordering, Real Video server and Contribution pages. Again, I'm sorry it took so long to get things back - way longer than I ever intended. Have fun! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Apr 11, 2000
Subject: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy Brace...
Hello RV-4 Builders, Over the years I have kept my eye out for a nice canopy brace installation on an RV-4 in hopes of doing something nice on mine when the time came. A couple of years ago I had a conversation with another List member and RV-4 builder about a system that he had used. He was kind enough to procure a pneumatic strut for me and this weekend I set to coming up with a way to install it. I am *very* pleased with the way it came out and best of all it is very unobtrusive in general and specifically to the rear passenger. While there isn't really enough pressure in the strut to significantly slow the decent of the canopy, it works very well at holding it in the open position. I've included a number of picture links below. The last shot is a closeup of the tag on the strut in case you wish to locate one yourself. Thanks again to my friend from CO for the perfect strut and for the idea (he asked to remain anonymous.) Let me know if you have any questions. http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace1.jpg http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace2.jpg http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace3.jpg http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace4.jpg http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace5.jpg http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace6.jpg Best regards, Matt Dralle RV-4 #1763, N442RV To Be... -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "j.j. banks " <tinmanjj(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy Brace...
Date: Apr 11, 2000
fine pictures ,matt . I built one similar to that in 1987 just beware that you should not walk away from your rv with it propped open cause some idiot atan airshow can blow it away when he fires up his p51 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:40 PM Subject: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy Brace... > > > Hello RV-4 Builders, > > Over the years I have kept my eye out for a nice canopy brace > installation on an RV-4 in hopes of doing something nice on mine when the > time came. A couple of years ago I had a conversation with another List > member and RV-4 builder about a system that he had used. He was kind > enough to procure a pneumatic strut for me and this weekend I set to > coming up with a way to install it. I am *very* pleased with the way it > came out and best of all it is very unobtrusive in general and > specifically to the rear passenger. While there isn't really enough > pressure in the strut to significantly slow the decent of the canopy, it > works very well at holding it in the open position. I've included a > number of picture links below. The last shot is a closeup of the tag on > the strut in case you wish to locate one yourself. Thanks again to my > friend from CO for the perfect strut and for the idea (he asked to > remain anonymous.) Let me know if you have any questions. > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace1.jpg > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace2.jpg > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace3.jpg > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace4.jpg > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace5.jpg > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace6.jpg > > > Best regards, > > Matt Dralle > RV-4 #1763, N442RV To Be... > > > -- > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 11, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy Brace...
JJ; The canopy restraining system I use on my -4 is a pin through the roll-bar that extends through the canopy frame via plastic bushings in the rollbar. It is vittually impossible to blow open or further closed. Drop me a line sometime and I'll give you the dimensions. Rob Ray smokyray(at)yahoo.com --- "j.j. banks " wrote: > > > fine pictures ,matt . I built one similar to that in > 1987 just beware that > you should not walk away from your rv with it > propped open cause some idiot > atan airshow can blow it away when he fires up his > p51 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:40 PM > Subject: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy > Brace... > > > dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > > > > Hello RV-4 Builders, > > > > Over the years I have kept my eye out for a nice > canopy brace > > installation on an RV-4 in hopes of doing > something nice on mine when the > > time came. A couple of years ago I had a > conversation with another List > > member and RV-4 builder about a system that he had > used. He was kind > > enough to procure a pneumatic strut for me and > this weekend I set to > > coming up with a way to install it. I am *very* > pleased with the way it > > came out and best of all it is very unobtrusive in > general and > > specifically to the rear passenger. While there > isn't really enough > > pressure in the strut to significantly slow the > decent of the canopy, it > > works very well at holding it in the open > position. I've included a > > number of picture links below. The last shot is a > closeup of the tag on > > the strut in case you wish to locate one yourself. > Thanks again to my > > friend from CO for the perfect strut and for the > idea (he asked to > > remain anonymous.) Let me know if you have any > questions. > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace1.jpg > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace2.jpg > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace3.jpg > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace4.jpg > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace5.jpg > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace6.jpg > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Matt Dralle > > RV-4 #1763, N442RV To Be... > > > > > > -- > > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | > Livermore | CA | 94551 > > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | > dralle(at)matronics.com Email > > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring > Products For Aircraft > > > > > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" <James.Johnson(at)pentagon.af.mil>
Subject: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy Brace...
Date: Apr 12, 2000
Smokey, I was at Sun-N-Fun, sorry I missed you!!! I bought a pin like yours and am installing it this next weekend. Also got a Garmin 195 GPS at SnF, $695!!!! Flew home with it. I had triple redundant navigation, GPS 195/90 and Loran! Beats anything I flew in jets with!!! Jj -----Original Message----- From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:47 PM Subject: Re: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy Brace... JJ; The canopy restraining system I use on my -4 is a pin through the roll-bar that extends through the canopy frame via plastic bushings in the rollbar. It is vittually impossible to blow open or further closed. Drop me a line sometime and I'll give you the dimensions. Rob Ray smokyray(at)yahoo.com --- "j.j. banks " wrote: > > > fine pictures ,matt . I built one similar to that in > 1987 just beware that > you should not walk away from your rv with it > propped open cause some idiot > atan airshow can blow it away when he fires up his > p51 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:40 PM > Subject: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy > Brace... > > > dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > > > > Hello RV-4 Builders, > > > > Over the years I have kept my eye out for a nice > canopy brace > > installation on an RV-4 in hopes of doing > something nice on mine when the > > time came. A couple of years ago I had a > conversation with another List > > member and RV-4 builder about a system that he had > used. He was kind > > enough to procure a pneumatic strut for me and > this weekend I set to > > coming up with a way to install it. I am *very* > pleased with the way it > > came out and best of all it is very unobtrusive in > general and > > specifically to the rear passenger. While there > isn't really enough > > pressure in the strut to significantly slow the > decent of the canopy, it > > works very well at holding it in the open > position. I've included a > > number of picture links below. The last shot is a > closeup of the tag on > > the strut in case you wish to locate one yourself. > Thanks again to my > > friend from CO for the perfect strut and for the > idea (he asked to > > remain anonymous.) Let me know if you have any > questions. > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace1.jpg > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace2.jpg > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace3.jpg > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace4.jpg > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace5.jpg > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace6.jpg > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Matt Dralle > > RV-4 #1763, N442RV To Be... > > > > > > -- > > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | > Livermore | CA | 94551 > > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | > dralle(at)matronics.com Email > > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring > Products For Aircraft > > > > > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 12, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy Brace...
Dude; I was there! Flew the Tcraft down from NW FL. Bought a headset and picked up alot of gouge on stuff. I also have bought a Bernie Warnke prop and a metal sensenich with spinner from a guy in oregon. If you are still interested in heavy metal up front, let me know. I wanted the Warnke. Gotta go fly the viper again...our new Litening Targeting pods rule dude...See ya. Smokey --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" wrote: > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > Smokey, > > I was at Sun-N-Fun, sorry I missed you!!! I bought > a pin like yours and am > installing it this next weekend. Also got a Garmin > 195 GPS at SnF, $695!!!! > Flew home with it. I had triple redundant > navigation, GPS 195/90 and Loran! > Beats anything I flew in jets with!!! > > Jj > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:47 PM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy > Brace... > > > > > JJ; > > The canopy restraining system I use on my -4 is a > pin > through the roll-bar that extends through the canopy > frame via plastic bushings in the rollbar. It is > vittually impossible to blow open or further closed. > Drop me a line sometime and I'll give you the > dimensions. > > Rob Ray > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > > --- "j.j. banks " wrote: > > > > > > fine pictures ,matt . I built one similar to that > in > > 1987 just beware that > > you should not walk away from your rv with it > > propped open cause some idiot > > atan airshow can blow it away when he fires up his > > p51 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:40 PM > > Subject: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy > > Brace... > > > > > > dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > > > > > > > Hello RV-4 Builders, > > > > > > Over the years I have kept my eye out for a nice > > canopy brace > > > installation on an RV-4 in hopes of doing > > something nice on mine when the > > > time came. A couple of years ago I had a > > conversation with another List > > > member and RV-4 builder about a system that he > had > > used. He was kind > > > enough to procure a pneumatic strut for me and > > this weekend I set to > > > coming up with a way to install it. I am *very* > > pleased with the way it > > > came out and best of all it is very unobtrusive > in > > general and > > > specifically to the rear passenger. While there > > isn't really enough > > > pressure in the strut to significantly slow the > > decent of the canopy, it > > > works very well at holding it in the open > > position. I've included a > > > number of picture links below. The last shot is > a > > closeup of the tag on > > > the strut in case you wish to locate one > yourself. > > Thanks again to my > > > friend from CO for the perfect strut and for the > > idea (he asked to > > > remain anonymous.) Let me know if you have any > > questions. > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace1.jpg > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace2.jpg > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace3.jpg > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace4.jpg > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace5.jpg > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace6.jpg > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Matt Dralle > > > RV-4 #1763, N442RV To Be... > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | > > Livermore | CA | 94551 > > > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | > > dralle(at)matronics.com Email > > > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring > > Products For Aircraft > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" <James.Johnson(at)pentagon.af.mil>
Subject: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy Brace...
Date: Apr 12, 2000
Smokey, I may be. My engine is a 150, or maybe a 160, I don't know for sure. Let me know the bogey dope on it! I sure love my nice, refinished Ed Sterba prop! For you Matronics folks, Mr Ed Sterba re-finished my gravel chipped wood prop FOR FREE!!! He said once you buy a prop from him, he stands behind it. Very impressive!!! And Garmin 195 rocks! Jj -----Original Message----- From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 2:34 PM Subject: RE: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy Brace... Dude; I was there! Flew the Tcraft down from NW FL. Bought a headset and picked up alot of gouge on stuff. I also have bought a Bernie Warnke prop and a metal sensenich with spinner from a guy in oregon. If you are still interested in heavy metal up front, let me know. I wanted the Warnke. Gotta go fly the viper again...our new Litening Targeting pods rule dude...See ya. Smokey --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" wrote: > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > Smokey, > > I was at Sun-N-Fun, sorry I missed you!!! I bought > a pin like yours and am > installing it this next weekend. Also got a Garmin > 195 GPS at SnF, $695!!!! > Flew home with it. I had triple redundant > navigation, GPS 195/90 and Loran! > Beats anything I flew in jets with!!! > > Jj > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:47 PM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy > Brace... > > > > > JJ; > > The canopy restraining system I use on my -4 is a > pin > through the roll-bar that extends through the canopy > frame via plastic bushings in the rollbar. It is > vittually impossible to blow open or further closed. > Drop me a line sometime and I'll give you the > dimensions. > > Rob Ray > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > > --- "j.j. banks " wrote: > > > > > > fine pictures ,matt . I built one similar to that > in > > 1987 just beware that > > you should not walk away from your rv with it > > propped open cause some idiot > > atan airshow can blow it away when he fires up his > > p51 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:40 PM > > Subject: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy > > Brace... > > > > > > dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > > > > > > > Hello RV-4 Builders, > > > > > > Over the years I have kept my eye out for a nice > > canopy brace > > > installation on an RV-4 in hopes of doing > > something nice on mine when the > > > time came. A couple of years ago I had a > > conversation with another List > > > member and RV-4 builder about a system that he > had > > used. He was kind > > > enough to procure a pneumatic strut for me and > > this weekend I set to > > > coming up with a way to install it. I am *very* > > pleased with the way it > > > came out and best of all it is very unobtrusive > in > > general and > > > specifically to the rear passenger. While there > > isn't really enough > > > pressure in the strut to significantly slow the > > decent of the canopy, it > > > works very well at holding it in the open > > position. I've included a > > > number of picture links below. The last shot is > a > > closeup of the tag on > > > the strut in case you wish to locate one > yourself. > > Thanks again to my > > > friend from CO for the perfect strut and for the > > idea (he asked to > > > remain anonymous.) Let me know if you have any > > questions. > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace1.jpg > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace2.jpg > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace3.jpg > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace4.jpg > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace5.jpg > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace6.jpg > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Matt Dralle > > > RV-4 #1763, N442RV To Be... > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | > > Livermore | CA | 94551 > > > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | > > dralle(at)matronics.com Email > > > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring > > Products For Aircraft > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 13, 2000
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Prop me up..
Hi Jim; I stopped by the Van's tent at Sun N Fun and signed the book dedicated to Bill Benedict. It was a very somber place. He was one of the good guys. On an up note, RV products and goodies abounded at SNF including three different electronic ignitions, aluminum V8 engines for -8's and many props. I stopped at the booth for the "autoprop" which automatically adjusts pitch based on RPM and flight loads. It uses a cool spinner with little fins on it that allow the spinner to spin independently of the hub and measure rpm. The blades are aluminum and the whole thing is first class. It is already certified on C-172's and I volunteered to test it on my RV, if I could get one. Yeah, I know, I love my wood prop too, until it starts raining. I'll let you know the diff with heavy metal out front... Smokey --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" wrote: > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > Smokey, > > I may be. My engine is a 150, or maybe a 160, I > don't know for sure. Let > me know the bogey dope on it! I sure love my nice, > refinished Ed Sterba > prop! For you Matronics folks, Mr Ed Sterba > re-finished my gravel chipped > wood prop FOR FREE!!! He said once you buy a prop > from him, he stands > behind it. Very impressive!!! And Garmin 195 > rocks! > > Jj > > -----Original Message----- > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 2:34 PM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy > Brace... > > > > > Dude; > > I was there! Flew the Tcraft down from NW FL. > Bought > a headset and picked up alot of gouge on stuff. I > also > have bought a Bernie Warnke prop and a metal > sensenich > with spinner from a guy in oregon. If you are still > interested in heavy metal up front, let me know. I > wanted the Warnke. Gotta go fly the viper > again...our > new Litening Targeting pods rule dude...See ya. > > Smokey > > --- "Johnson, James, Maj, AF/XOOT" > wrote: > > Maj, AF/XOOT" > > > > Smokey, > > > > I was at Sun-N-Fun, sorry I missed you!!! I > bought > > a pin like yours and am > > installing it this next weekend. Also got a > Garmin > > 195 GPS at SnF, $695!!!! > > Flew home with it. I had triple redundant > > navigation, GPS 195/90 and Loran! > > Beats anything I flew in jets with!!! > > > > Jj > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:47 PM > > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 > Canopy > > Brace... > > > > > > > > > > JJ; > > > > The canopy restraining system I use on my -4 is a > > pin > > through the roll-bar that extends through the > canopy > > frame via plastic bushings in the rollbar. It is > > vittually impossible to blow open or further > closed. > > Drop me a line sometime and I'll give you the > > dimensions. > > > > Rob Ray > > smokyray(at)yahoo.com > > > > --- "j.j. banks " wrote: > > > > > > > > > fine pictures ,matt . I built one similar to > that > > in > > > 1987 just beware that > > > you should not walk away from your rv with it > > > propped open cause some idiot > > > atan airshow can blow it away when he fires up > his > > > p51 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:40 PM > > > Subject: RV4-List: Finally, A Decent RV-4 Canopy > > > Brace... > > > > > > > > > dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello RV-4 Builders, > > > > > > > > Over the years I have kept my eye out for a > nice > > > canopy brace > > > > installation on an RV-4 in hopes of doing > > > something nice on mine when the > > > > time came. A couple of years ago I had a > > > conversation with another List > > > > member and RV-4 builder about a system that he > > had > > > used. He was kind > > > > enough to procure a pneumatic strut for me and > > > this weekend I set to > > > > coming up with a way to install it. I am > *very* > > > pleased with the way it > > > > came out and best of all it is very > unobtrusive > > in > > > general and > > > > specifically to the rear passenger. While > there > > > isn't really enough > > > > pressure in the strut to significantly slow > the > > > decent of the canopy, it > > > > works very well at holding it in the open > > > position. I've included a > > > > number of picture links below. The last shot > is > > a > > > closeup of the tag on > > > > the strut in case you wish to locate one > > yourself. > > > Thanks again to my > > > > friend from CO for the perfect strut and for > the > > > idea (he asked to > > > > remain anonymous.) Let me know if you have > any > > > questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace1.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace2.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace3.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace4.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace5.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/mattsrv4/MiscPictures/CanopyBrace6.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Matt Dralle > > > > RV-4 #1763, N442RV To Be... > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | > > > Livermore | CA | 94551 > > > > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | > === message truncated === Send online invitations with Yahoo! 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From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Apr 25, 2000
Subject: RV-4 Horz Stab Front Spar Attach...
Listers, My original set of plans for my RV-4 are dated 1988. Recently, though, I've been working from a new set, probably 1997 or so. I'm fitting my horz stab to the fuse right now and I'm noticing a big difference in the "old way" vs. the "new way" of mounting the front spar to the fuse. The old way basically just bolted a 1" x 1" x .125" angle to the front spar with three bolts, and the angle to fuse with two bolts, indicating that washers should be used to 'shimming' as necessary. Well, the new plans show a much different arrangement with *two* pieces of angle - one on the top and one on the bottom - and that these angles are *riveted* to the front spar and fuse bulkhead respectivly, and the whole assembly is sandwitch bolted together through the top fuse longeron with 4 bolts. So what's the deal? Why the big change in attachment? Either way is sort of a pain since drilling space is a little restricted at this point, but certainly workable. Any thoughts or in sight into this area would be most appreciated. Matt Dralle RV-4 #1763, N442RV to be... -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Pat Perry" <pperryrv(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-4 Horz Stab Front Spar Attach...
Date: Apr 26, 2000
>So what's the deal? Why the big change in attachment? Either way is >sort of a pain since drilling space is a little restricted at this >point, but certainly workable. > >Any thoughts or in sight into this area would be most appreciated. > >Matt Dralle >RV-4 #1763, N442RV to be... > > Hi Matt, I came across the same thing when building my fuselage, my kit is pre '88 and my updated plans were from '99. I called Vans when I relized there was a drastic difference in the fuselage assembly and the parts for the attachment. Bill B. said the change came from some builders having problems fitting the bolts to attach the front spar to the F410 bulkhead and and interference with the VS attach bolts. I think there may have been a problem from not getting the bolts tight because of the tight space between the VS attach point and the but I'm not sure of any details of how bad the problem was. Anyway, a change was made to the drawings moving the top of the F410 bulkhead forward and calling the new split off piece F410A. The bolts now are shown to go down through the 1x1x.125 angle and a lower angle. I think the RV-6 has a similar attach scheme. Bill said either way was fine and would serve the purpose but the new layout was easier to install and service. When I got to the tail end of my fuse I modified my kit and fabricated a new F410A and aft deck to make mine the new style. If I remember correctly your fuse is already done so your aft deck is in place and would be hard to change if you have the one piece F410. If you have the two piece F410 the attachment isn't too bad. Just fit the HS to the rear attach first then find the exact for/aft position of the upper 1x1 angle and drill the holes down through the aft deck and longeron so the angle can be bolted to the fuse aft deck. Remove the angle and drill the 1/8" holes in it for the attachment to the front spar. Bolt the angle back onto the aft deck and clamp the front spar to it in the final position. Use a right angle drill and use the predrilled holes as pilot holes to drill the front spar to the angle. You might want to initially drill them #40 just to keep them from getting too large when you do the final drilling. Take the whole thing apart, clean it , deburr, prime, and use a squeezer to rivet the angle to the front spar. Then bolt it back on the plane. I used a small nephew to help get the nuts started on the lower side of the aftdeck. Good luck! Pat Perry Dallas, PA RV-4 #154, N154PK reserved Fitting the cowl and paying large visa bills! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Apr 30, 2000
Subject: PLEASE READ: Network Problems To Matronics...
Dear Listers, My ISP is upgrading their network today 4/30 and tomorrow 5/1. I noticed that Nameservice (DNS) went down last night around 3am which causes all sorts of problems. If your message post was rejected between about 3am 4/30 and 1pm 4/30, please repost as it was rejected do to the DNS being down. I've redirected my systems to a different DNS server in the mean time and things seem to be working right now. In any case, be aware that there may be continuing issues over the next couple of days both posting email messages and accessing the web server. My ISP *promises* that things are going to be so much better after the upgrade! We'll see... ;-) Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lkyswede(at)aol.com
Date: May 02, 2000
Subject: Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
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From: "Randall Henderson" <randallh(at)home.com>
Subject: Room at OSH available
Date: Jul 23, 2000
Well, my on-again off-again plans for OSH are off again, at least for most of it, so the room I had reserved will be available. This is a room with a queen bed in a nice house with central air. The hostess, Sharon Hawkins, provides continental breakfast. She works the EAA too so it should be possible to catch a ride with her to and from the show when she goes. The house is close to a bus line so you can get to/from that way too. Its available for the whole show. If interested, contact Sharon Hawkins, 920-232-8554. Please email me if you get the room so I can get my deposit back. Randall Henderson randall(at)edt.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randall Henderson" <randallh(at)home.com>
Subject: Room at OSH taken
Date: Jul 23, 2000
Looks like the room I posted at OSH (Sharon Hawkins') has been taken (Charlie, be sure to let me and/or the list know if anything changes.) I will in fact be going but not until Friday or Saturday, and I'll just camp. Look forward to seeing y'all! Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~100 hrs) Portland, OR http://www.edt.com/homewing ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David & Kim Clabots" <clabots(at)execpc.com>
Subject: RV-4 Project for Sale
Date: Jul 25, 2000
Hi everyone, I'm selling my RV-4 project, Plans #2496. I'm located in Green Bay, WI. 50 miles northeast of Oshkosh. Empenage complete. Wings complete except for wing tip lights. Fuselage kit started. Firewall and most bulkheads ready for primer and riveting. Finishing kit has to be purchased. Some tools also available for sale. See website for more details and photos: www.geocities.com/dclabots/ I will be at Oshkosh from Wednesday, July 26 through either Sunday, July 30 or Monday, July 31. See website for my cell phone number, etc. If you're interested and going to Oshkosh it might be a good time to drive up to Green Bay and check it out. David W. Clabots clabots(at)execpc.com do not archieve ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jul 30, 2000
Subject: New Windows Utility For SkyMap II/IIIC...
Listers, For those of you that have had the pleasure of flying with one of the new Skyforce/King Skymap II or IIICs, I've been working on a Windows application that you might be interested in. Its call SkyComm and allows you to connect up your Windows 95/98/NT/2000 PC or laptop to the RS232 serial port on the Skymap and manage a number of its internal datasets. Some of SkyComm's features include Screen Shot Capture, Upload/Download of up to 4000 characters to the Skymap's internal Notepad for something like an online checklists etc., Upload/Download of Waypoint and Route data, and Download of the Skymap's Logger database. There's even a built in wiring diagram for the requisite RS232 cable! I have just finished Version 1.0 and am considering this Beta 1. I have setup a rather extensive web site for information on the application and for its download. If you have a SkyMap, you're going to want this program! Best of all, its FREE! Well, I do ask that those that like it make a voluntary List contribution... :-) The URL for the site is listed below and can also now be found off the main Matronics web site as well as the specific List web pages. Please download the program and let me know what you think! Comments should be directed to support(at)matronics.com SkyComm Web Site ---------------- http://www.matronics.com/skycomm/ Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dennis Steinman <DSteinman@pc-boards.com>
Subject: FOR SALE Partially complete kit
Date: Aug 03, 2000
RV kit partially completed. Tail done, wings done, fuselage ready to skin. Some extra parts included. All tools also available. Will sacrafise for $8500. Phone evenings and weekends @ 316-431-1874 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jim Baker" <bakerje(at)kfalls.net>
Subject: Best Prop
Date: Aug 03, 2000
Hello, I am at the point of ordering a propeller (wood) for my project and interested in knowing what the rest of you guys and gals have had luck with and what you would do different if you could? I have studied all the information I can find on the subject, including the propeller comparison done several years ago by Van with the RV-6. Looks like the most efficient (wood) is the Warnke Prop. Thanks for your help. Send me email direct to bakerje(at)kfalls.net N513J ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Aug 05, 2000
Subject: New RV-9 List At Matronics!
Hi RV Listers! Due to popular demand, I have added a new RV9-List email forum to the Matronics server. As you might have expected, the name of the list is: rv9-list(at)matronics.com and you may subscribe to it by going to the usual Subscription page found at: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Be sure to scroll down to the newly added "RV9-List" and "RV9-List-Digest" buttons on the Subscription page. I have also added support in the Search Engine and Download sections for the new List. These can be found at: http://www.matronics.com/search and http://www.matronics.com/archives respectivly. Have fun, and best regards!!! Matt Dralle Email List Admin, Matronics. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "B. Riesen" <briesenjr(at)prodigy.net>
"RV4-List Digest List"
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/04/00
Date: Aug 05, 2000
please remove my name and e-mail address frim your mailing list.. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 12, 2000
From: Gary Zilik <zilik(at)bewellnet.com>
Subject: Burlington Colorado Flyin
Listers, It is hard to believe but a year has almost past and it is again time for the RV Builder's Dream Event in Burlington, Colorado. The 5th Annual Burlington RV Flyin happens this year September 22nd-24th at ITR in Eastern Colorado. Events this year include a Poker Run and for you real competitive guys a Speed Race. Awards judging also takes place so bring your pride and Joy and take home a beautiful trophy. Burlington is not for flying RV's only. No matter how you get there there are forums on how to make it go faster and for the builders amongst us lots of airplanes to look at and builder/flyers to answer questions. If you have MS-WORD http://www.geocities.com/zilik/Burlington.doc has all the info. For those who do not have MS-WORD I have converted (poorly mind you) the word document to html and this can be viewed by going to: http:www.geocities.com/zilik/Burlington.html So mark you calendars and come and visit us in Burlington, Colorado. The best RV flyin in the US. Gary Zilik RV-6A - 0-360-A1A 75 hrs and counting. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 24, 2000
From: larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com>
Subject: (no subject)
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From: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil>
Subject: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe
Date: Aug 24, 2000
Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List. V/R, David Foelker ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil>
Subject: RV-List: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe
Date: Aug 24, 2000
--> RV-List message posted by: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List. V/R, David Foelker ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 24, 2000
From: larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com>
Subject: (no subject)
please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil>
Subject: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe
Date: Aug 24, 2000
Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List. V/R, David Foelker ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 24, 2000
From: larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com>
Subject: RV-List: (no subject)
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Date: Sep 30, 2000
From: Scott <acepilot(at)win.bright.net>
Subject: Going to be in the area...
We're flying into DFW (Dallas/Ft. Worth) on Oct. 4, renting a car and driving to Gainesville. Will be in Gainesville until Oct. 7. Any projects along the route or in the area that we could visit? Any day as we'll have wheels while there! Especially a -4. Even better would be to find a flying -4 as that's what we're building and have never even been up in one :( -- --Scott-- 1986 Corben Junior Ace N3642 http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ RV-4 under construction (tail feathers) Gotta Fly or Gonna Die! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "rvs 4all" <rvs4all(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RV kit wanted
Date: Oct 02, 2000
I'm looking for ANY type of RV project that's not completed beyond the "quick build" state. Any kit that has been put together aesthetically nicely and primed up to this point will be considered. email me offline with info. frank ________________________________________________________________________________
From: GRENIER(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 02, 2000
Subject: Fuel system
I am trying to decide on the best way to plumb the fuel lines from the tanks on my -4 to the fuel selector. The left tank has an inverted fuel pick up and the tank fitting is in the space between the leading edge and the tank brace. My question is how much space is there between the tank fitting and the fuse when the wings are installed -- something I have not done yet. Is there enough room to screw on a hose fitting? Or, should I bring a short stub into from the tank into the fuse and make a splice there? Same issue for the vent line. Thanks for any help. Ray Grenier RV-4, last 125 % ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 01, 2000
Subject: A Season of Giving - Please Support Your List!
Dear Listers, As my good friend Al Mojzisik from the RV-List forum has pointed out in his humorous style this morning, its time for the Annual List Fund Raiser! For those that are new to the Lists since last year, I'd like to just mention what its all about. I have always run the List services here completely free of charge to the members. This includes the Email Lists, Archive Search Engine, as well as some of the other goodies found on the servers. My policy has always been that I will never charge a 'fee' to sign up for any of the email Lists and I have also turned down a number potentially lucrative of 'commercial' offers to provide advertising space either on the various web pages or on in each of the outgoing emails. I have always graciously declined these offers, however, because I have felt that the friendly, homey feeling of the commercial-free site was very appealing. I have also felt that offering the services here for free is the best way to stimulate the greatest membership, and in my opinion, this is the most important element in the success of a forum such as this. So, once again, I will restate my commitment to always keeping all of the services here on the Matronics servers free to everyone. That being said, I must also say that running this system is far from free for me, however. I am continually trying to provide the best, most reliable service possible and have continued to upgrade the systems as necessary to maintain or improve the level of service I provide. Quite aside from the "real costs" involved in the maintenance of a service like this, however, is the time commitment necessary to keep everything running and time required to produce new and improved software enhancements to make the whole experience more enjoyable for everyone. On the average I spend 10 to 20 hours a week handling subscription requests and related problems, maintaining the existing computer code base, and developing new utilities for the List community. The whole List site (web server and email server) continue to run across the 768kb/sec DSL-based Internet connection. Connections to the servers have generally been pretty reliable and performance has been good. Up time for the connection has approached the 99% mark. If you regularly enjoy the services provided here, I would ask that you make a Contribution in any amount in which you are comfortable. Your Contribution will be used to directly support the continued operation and improvement of all these services, and as always, I will turn your Contributions back into more upgrades and improvements. It is truly an investment in the future of these Lists. To make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard, please go to the following URL and follow the simple instructions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html To make a Contribution by check, please send US Mail to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 As I have done in the past, I will post a "Contributors List" at the end of the Fund Raiser, personally acknowledging each and everyone that has generously made a Contribution this year! Finally, I just want to say *Thank You* to everyone that has supported me and my operation here this year. Your support and encouragement means a great deal to me and I feel like I have friends literally from all around the world! Sincerely, Matt Dralle Your Email List Administrator dralle(at)matronics.com ============================================================================ >-------------- >--> RV-List message posted by: Al Mojzisik > >Well folks, > >I hate to spring this on you without much advance warning and all but it's >November already. For you newer List members you may not know but this is >the time of year we all give "thanks" for all that Matte Dralle has done >for us with this RV-List. the customary way of saying "thanks" is with a >voluntary donation of cash through Matte's own simple and safe contribution >hot-line at: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >It's really rather painless and actually gives you a good warm and fuzzy >feeling inside after you have made your contribution. Now last year I >relied heavily on guilt to get some of you harder nuts to crack to ante >up. This year I hope that in keeping with the election year theme I can >learn something from the experts........"It's for the children." > >Yes your contribution will help children everywhere learn about the high >moral values that are inherent in the RV family of aircraft. As our young >charges surf the Internet for information on various things that we don't >want them to know about, they may stumble across the Matronics Website and >become aware of the RV-List and other interesting forums that Matte >provides. This in turn may change there lives as they see what can be >achieved through hard work and perseverance. They will learn how the polite >exchange of idea's between consenting adults can result in the birth of one >(or more) of the finest aircraft in existence today. They can become aware >of a whole world out there that had previously been unknown or out of reach >to them. So in the interest of our children, send your contribution to >Matte to help the RV-List live long and prosper.............Darn, got my >tongue caught in my cheek there for a moment. > >Once again, you can make your contribution through credit card at: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > c/o Matt Dralle > Matronics > P.O. Box 347 > Livermore, CA. 94551 > >I would like to pledge at this time that I will not place any negative >advertising in the hope of raising funds for RV-List support. (Unless you >folks hold out too long, then look out!) Let's have a real clean campaign >this November and get out the contributions! AL >-------------- -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Larry Hawkins <lhawkins(at)giant.com>
Subject: A Season of Giving - Please Support Your List!
Date: Nov 01, 2000
Matt I happily submitted my contribution this morning because I would hate to think about building without the help from the builders that are willing and anxious to help people like me. I also enjoy the letters about flying from the people that have finished their RV's. Thanks to all. Get those contributions sent in, it's easy and painless, and money well spent. Larry Hawkins, RV-4 fuse Farmington,NM -----Original Message----- From: dralle(at)matronics.com [mailto:dralle(at)matronics.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 11:23 AM Subject: RV4-List: A Season of Giving - Please Support Your List! Dear Listers, As my good friend Al Mojzisik from the RV-List forum has pointed out in his humorous style this morning, its time for the Annual List Fund Raiser! For those that are new to the Lists since last year, I'd like to just mention what its all about. I have always run the List services here completely free of charge to the members. This includes the Email Lists, Archive Search Engine, as well as some of the other goodies found on the servers. My policy has always been that I will never charge a 'fee' to sign up for any of the email Lists and I have also turned down a number potentially lucrative of 'commercial' offers to provide advertising space either on the various web pages or on in each of the outgoing emails. I have always graciously declined these offers, however, because I have felt that the friendly, homey feeling of the commercial-free site was very appealing. I have also felt that offering the services here for free is the best way to stimulate the greatest membership, and in my opinion, this is the most important element in the success of a forum such as this. So, once again, I will restate my commitment to always keeping all of the services here on the Matronics servers free to everyone. That being said, I must also say that running this system is far from free for me, however. I am continually trying to provide the best, most reliable service possible and have continued to upgrade the systems as necessary to maintain or improve the level of service I provide. Quite aside from the "real costs" involved in the maintenance of a service like this, however, is the time commitment necessary to keep everything running and time required to produce new and improved software enhancements to make the whole experience more enjoyable for everyone. On the average I spend 10 to 20 hours a week handling subscription requests and related problems, maintaining the existing computer code base, and developing new utilities for the List community. The whole List site (web server and email server) continue to run across the 768kb/sec DSL-based Internet connection. Connections to the servers have generally been pretty reliable and performance has been good. Up time for the connection has approached the 99% mark. If you regularly enjoy the services provided here, I would ask that you make a Contribution in any amount in which you are comfortable. Your Contribution will be used to directly support the continued operation and improvement of all these services, and as always, I will turn your Contributions back into more upgrades and improvements. It is truly an investment in the future of these Lists. To make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard, please go to the following URL and follow the simple instructions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html To make a Contribution by check, please send US Mail to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 As I have done in the past, I will post a "Contributors List" at the end of the Fund Raiser, personally acknowledging each and everyone that has generously made a Contribution this year! Finally, I just want to say *Thank You* to everyone that has supported me and my operation here this year. Your support and encouragement means a great deal to me and I feel like I have friends literally from all around the world! Sincerely, Matt Dralle Your Email List Administrator dralle(at)matronics.com ============================================================================ >-------------- >--> RV-List message posted by: Al Mojzisik > >Well folks, > >I hate to spring this on you without much advance warning and all but it's >November already. For you newer List members you may not know but this is >the time of year we all give "thanks" for all that Matte Dralle has done >for us with this RV-List. the customary way of saying "thanks" is with a >voluntary donation of cash through Matte's own simple and safe contribution >hot-line at: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >It's really rather painless and actually gives you a good warm and fuzzy >feeling inside after you have made your contribution. Now last year I >relied heavily on guilt to get some of you harder nuts to crack to ante >up. This year I hope that in keeping with the election year theme I can >learn something from the experts........"It's for the children." > >Yes your contribution will help children everywhere learn about the high >moral values that are inherent in the RV family of aircraft. As our young >charges surf the Internet for information on various things that we don't >want them to know about, they may stumble across the Matronics Website and >become aware of the RV-List and other interesting forums that Matte >provides. This in turn may change there lives as they see what can be >achieved through hard work and perseverance. They will learn how the polite >exchange of idea's between consenting adults can result in the birth of one >(or more) of the finest aircraft in existence today. They can become aware >of a whole world out there that had previously been unknown or out of reach >to them. So in the interest of our children, send your contribution to >Matte to help the RV-List live long and prosper.............Darn, got my >tongue caught in my cheek there for a moment. > >Once again, you can make your contribution through credit card at: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > c/o Matt Dralle > Matronics > P.O. Box 347 > Livermore, CA. 94551 > >I would like to pledge at this time that I will not place any negative >advertising in the hope of raising funds for RV-List support. (Unless you >folks hold out too long, then look out!) Let's have a real clean campaign >this November and get out the contributions! AL >-------------- -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 03, 2000
Subject: List Fund Raiser Continues...
Hello Listers! This is just a reminder that the Annual List Fund Raiser is currently underway. Won't you make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of this valuable resource? Your Contribution can be made via a Secure SSL Internet Transaction with your Visa or MasterCard at the URL shown below or you may send it via US Mail to the address also listed below. http://www.matronics.com/contribution or c/o Matt Dralle Matronics P.O. Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you for your support! Your generosity directly makes this List possible. Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: Homebuilt-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: Zenith-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
--> Zenith-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: Rocket-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
--> Rocket-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 08, 2000
Subject: Huge Apology for "List Malfunction"...
Dear Listers, I am so embarrassed by the List-gone-crazy tonight! I'm not sure exactly went wrong. I'm suspecting that someone with an email account at msm.com may have been reposting my message from this morning over and over again maliciously spamming the system, but I can't really prove that. In any case, I am hugely embarrassed and sorry for the ton of messages that went out tonight regarding the 2000 Fund Raiser. Something went wrong on the system or somebody did me wrong; in either case I apologize for the huge dump of messages. My sincerest apologies... Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2000
From: Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Test, please ignore...
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From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 13, 2000
Subject: New List MIME/HTML/Enclosure Filter Implemented...
Dear Listers, With the pervasiveness of email applications using HTML (web formatting) and MIME encoding such as AOL 6.0, Netscape, Eudora and others it was clear that I needed to come up with an improved method for limiting how messages posted to the various Lists was handled. As of today, November 13 2000 you should be able to configure your email program any way you like - with or without special formatting - and your message will still be accepted my the Matronics system. Also, if you include any sort of enclosure data, your message will also still be accepted instead of bounced back. But wait, it gets even better! Everything except for the plain text will be automatically stripped from the incoming post including any HTML, MIME, and/or enclosure data prior to redistribution. This should serve to both ease the configuration burden on the many users, and to increase the readability of both the posted messages and the archives. I had a few 'bugs' with the filter on Sunday and Monday morning, so if you received a few messages that seemed "odd", than this was probably why. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2000
From: Jim Ivey <jim(at)jimivey.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: New List MIME/HTML/Enclosure Filter Implemented...
Everything you need to know can be found at the following url: http://www.matronics.com/contribution/ I just used the secure credit-card option. There is also a snail-mail address for you old-fashioned types (i.e. back in the good old days when folks wouldn't abscond with your credit card info) ;) Jim Ivey N46YK Matt Dralle wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > Dear Listers, > > With the pervasiveness of email applications using HTML (web formatting) > and MIME encoding such as AOL 6.0, Netscape, Eudora and others it was > clear that I needed to come up with an improved method for limiting how > messages posted to the various Lists was handled. > > As of today, November 13 2000 you should be able to configure your email > program any way you like - with or without special formatting - and your > message will still be accepted my the Matronics system. Also, if you > include any sort of enclosure data, your message will also still be > accepted instead of bounced back. > > But wait, it gets even better! Everything except for the plain text > will be automatically stripped from the incoming post including any > HTML, MIME, and/or enclosure data prior to redistribution. This should > serve to both ease the configuration burden on the many users, and to > increase the readability of both the posted messages and the archives. > > I had a few 'bugs' with the filter on Sunday and Monday morning, so if > you received a few messages that seemed "odd", than this was probably > why. > > Best regards, > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Admin. > > -- > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > Great minds discuss ideas, > Average minds discuss events, > Small minds discuss people... > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ken Broste" <spiritmoves(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: What Listers Are Saying...
Date: Nov 20, 2000
Matt, I think what you're doing is great for those of us flying and building Kolb aircraft. You're probably saving Kolb a full time employee in tech support just by providing the communication between builders. I know I have had a half dozen questions answered here on the list and saved Kolb support a few phone calls. You should forward this letter to Kolb, maybe they'd ante up, too. It would be great PR for the TN Kolb a/c. Thanks a bunch, Matt! Ken Broste Building a Firestar Tucson, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:33 AM Subject: Kolb-List: What Listers Are Saying... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > Dear Listers, > > During this year's List Fund Raiser I have been receiving a number of > very nice comments from members regarding what the Lists mean to them. > I'm sure most everyone can echo one or more of the thoughts expressed > below. Won't you take a moment to make a Contribution to support the > continued operation and improvment of your Lists? > > A special 'thank you' to everyone that has made a contribution so far > and for all of the wonderful and supportive comments I've received! > > > To make a contribution with a credit card over an SSL Secure Web Site, > please go to the following URL: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > or, to make a contribution with a person check, please mail it to: > > Matronics > c/o Matt Dralle > PO Box 347 > Livermore, CA 94551 > > > Thank you!! > > Matt Dralle > Email List Admin. > > > ===================== Comments From List Members ======================== > > > * You helped make this dream a reality... -Terry C. > > * Thanks for a wonderful resource! -Rick J. > > * Thanks for providing a quality product. -Bill C. > > * Have found [the List] invaluable for education while building... -Rick H. > > > * I learn so much from the List! -Robert R. > > * [The List] is better than any aviation magazines I subscribe o. -Roger H. > > * I enjoy the pages and find them very helpful. -Noel G. > > * The "List" is a great place to both receive and exten help and ideas for > building and making flying safer. -Jack B. > > > * The discussions are very helpful. -James B. > > * ...I believe this List will be a better value than the ewsletter. -Roger T. > > * [The List] has helped me with the construction of my RV-9. -Marty S. > > * VERY good reading. Excellent entertainment value. -Jerry I. > > > * [The List] has saved me many hour on wild goose chases. -Billy W. > > * Thanks for keeping my passion for flying as piqued as ever. -Terry W. > > * Keep up the nice work. -Daniel H. > > * Thanks for all the effort on behalf of Sport Aviation! -Elbie M. > > > * ...Great information source! -Richard W. > > * ...Thanks for your help and patience with a very difficult ask. -Louis W. > > * [The List] has been a great asset. -Edward C. > > * Just started and already received some valuable tips. -Scott S. > > > * Thanks for the List to let up share our passion. -Brian A. > > * ...This List is good stuff. -Russ D. > > * ...The single most helpful resource I've come across in uilding. -Craig P. > > * ...Enjoy [the List] a lot. -John H. > > > * The List is a most important tool to help building. -Brad R. > > * ...Really found the List to be great! -Geoff T. > > * Excellent contribution to the aviation community. -Larry B. > > * Great source of information... -William G. > > > * The Lists ... make building a real hoot! -Jeff O. > > * The List has been invaluable. -Matt P. > > * Thanks for letting me use the site. It's great! -Larry M. > > * ...This List has been very helpful. -Larry H. > > > * Greatest support ever for the builders and I have met many riends. -Fred H. > > * ...I love this List and have met many new friends... -Tom E. > > * Love both the List and the Search Engine. -Roy G. > > > ===================== Comments From List Members ======================== > > > -- > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > Great minds discuss ideas, > Average minds discuss events, > Small minds discuss people... > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: Re: List Fund Raiser - December 1 List of Contributors...
Date: Dec 04, 2000
Matt, I hope there was enough donating users to keep this service going... I for one truly enjoy the help and camaraderie. Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
From: william.a.crook(at)us.arthurandersen.com
Date: Dec 04, 2000
Subject: Delete remove me from list
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From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: Fw: RV-List: Engine Dataplate
Date: Dec 04, 2000
In that vain... I've been looking for an O-320 H2AD (anyone got one, drop me a line) and I was told that the experimental ones (read that no data plate) are a lot cheaper then certified. Working in a field where I am aware of unscrupulous people, how do I know what I'm trying to buy isn't stolen if the data plate is removed? Does Lycoming has serial numbers on the block or heads or elsewhere? Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Dustin Norlund <rv6(at)address.com> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: RV-List: Engine Dataplate > --> RV-List message posted by: Dustin Norlund > > > Input needed, > > Went to talk witht the DAR today about an inspection. He was asking about > engine and propeller. He said since i have a sterba wood prop on my lyc > 0320-e2d i will have to remove my engine dataplate. I knew that i would have > to have a 40 hour test time, but do i really have to remove the data plate? I > can not find a single thing in the FARs about removal of a data plate due to > this condition. I did find a reference to NOT removing the dataplate from any > certificated part. What gives? Who and who does not have a data plate here. > I would understand if the engine was not stock but this is a stock 0320e2d. > > > Dustin Norlund ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: Fw: RV-List: reaming spar joint attach holes
Date: Dec 24, 2000
I'm not a Metallurgist, but doesn't putting our steel bolts through our aluminum spars cause corrosion via electrolysis (dis-similar metals in contact)??? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com> > > finishing up the fuselage attach bulkhead and thought I would put the > spars > > in it and bolt everything up for a fit check and a picture, I know the > > close tolerance bolts won't go through because of primer and slight > > misalignments, do you'all think it is permissible to hand ream using a > .374 > > as long as I clamp the laminations on either side of the hole I'm reaming? > > same with the .249 and 3/16 holes? > > > > Scott, > > I found that if I used the rivet gun on a low psi setting to push the > bolts through the holes it worked well. At least in my case, the rapid but > gentle rapping on the head would push the bolts through when a heavy hammer > would not. You might give it a try before reaming the holes, you can always > ream. > > Ed Anderson ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Young, Richard BGI SF" <Richard.Young(at)barclaysglobal.com>
"'rv4-list(at)matronics.com'"
Subject: Looking for an RV-4
Date: Dec 28, 2000
I am sure you have seen these posts in the past, but please bear with me. Recently my wife agreed to let me move forward and purchase an RV-4. I have found an experienced builder who I will most likely use to help me through the process. Time will not allow me to build my own (nor would I trust myself). I am a pilot not a builder and I can live with that. Here is what I am looking for Must have: 150+ hp; Stage 3 engine mounts Chromemoly aileron and rudder stiffeners Would like (but not a deal breaker) Dual controls Full swivel tail wheel Long gear I would prefer a west coast plane as that will make the buying process easier, but that is not in stone. I do not want any real exotic modifications such as retractable gear. The simpler the better. All responses are appreciated Rick Young Sacramento CA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "kenny finch" <krfch(at)tcsn.net>
Subject: RV-4 4sale
Date: Dec 31, 2000
Richard Young left a message that he would like to buy a RV-4 but I couldn't get him at the address he gave, so maybe he could get me at krfch(at)tcsn.net or 805 238 1199 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 21, 2001
Subject: Matronics Web Server Upgrade...
B Dear Listers, I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server this afternoon (1/21/01) and will be taking it offline for a number of hours. I hope to have it back online by this evening sometime, depending on how well the upgrade goes. Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: Fw: RV-List: spins
Date: Jan 29, 2001
Terry, What happens when you put in opposite aileron, does she rollover onto her back? (I ain't done it so I'm wondering before it happens). Chuck > Also , do not kick until the plane actually stalls and the nose drops. Then > as soon as the stall breaks > , pull the stick all the way back and kick. Make sure that you dont put any > opposite aileron > in by mistake. When you are done , kick opposite rudder and as soon as the > rotation > starts to slow push stick toward neutral.Terry B. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 29, 2001
From: Louis Willig <larywil(at)home.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: RV-List: spins
> >Terry, > > What happens when you put in opposite aileron, does she rollover onto >her back? (I ain't done it so I'm wondering before it happens). Opposite aileron will probably flatten out the spin. Not a great idea for a low experienced pilot. Louis I. Willig larywil(at)home.com RV-4, N180PF, 70 hrs. and climbing fast I0-360, Hartzell C/S (610) 668-4964 Penn Valley, PA ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Melvinke(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 29, 2001
Subject: opposite aileron in spin
Applying opposite aileron during an established spin in the RV4 makes no discernable difference to the quite vigorous gyrations, but in other aircraft causes further stalling the inboard wing, intensifying the spin. If you are experiencing difficulty in getting the plane to enter a spin - as with a far forward CG - the application of opposite aileron may provide just the needed extra stimulus. The RV4 spins rapidly, with the nose rising to the horizon and back down vertically with each rotation, rather similar to that experienced in the P51 Mustang - but losing less than half the altitude per turn. I have experienced the RV4 flip on its back in entering a spin only with a very aft CG, entering with nose way high. In all of these circumstances, the RV 4 spin is nothing to be feared, and recovery is immediate within half a turn, applying standard recovery technique - deliberate application of full opposite rudder, followed by checking forward on the stick as soon as the rotation slows. The spin can be flattened by application of power, but this is not a good idea! Ken Melvin, N36KM. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Terry Burch" <rv6man(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: opposite aileron in spin
Date: Jan 29, 2001
----- Original Message ----- From: <Melvinke(at)aol.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:20 PM Subject: RV4-List: opposite aileron in spin > > Applying opposite aileron during an established spin in the RV4 makes no > discernable difference to the quite vigorous gyrations I would just like to make it clear that the original converstation about spins pertained to the RV6. I think everyone should know that the RV4 spins very differently than the RV6. I would never try spinning a 6 in any way that you can spin a 4. I feel from my experience that Van's recommendation of limiting the RV6 to two turns is valid. I have spun my RV6 both with and without VG's. The spins up to two turns were easily recoverable in both configurations. Although the VG's do cause the nose to spin somewhat lower and the recovery is somewhat quicker. Terry B. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 31, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: opposite aileron in spin
Nice note Ken, I concur. I have found that wood prop equipped -4's will spin slightly faster and flatter than the metal prop models with a more fwd CG. Even five extra pounds forward of the spar makes a huge difference in spin behavior. (ie. full fuel vs empty) Forced yaw rate departures (full aft stick opposite rudder/aileron cross control at stall) are also recoverable in 1-2 turns with standard inputs. Botched hammerheads will sometimes result in an inverted spin entry but the -4 will right itself with no inputs in 1-2 turns. Note: Spins are fun and build confidence, airmanship and precision. Leave the rear seat empty and wear a chute..... Rob Ray N557RR --- Melvinke(at)aol.com wrote: > > Applying opposite aileron during an established spin > in the RV4 makes no > discernable difference to the quite vigorous > gyrations, but in other > aircraft causes further stalling the inboard wing, > intensifying the spin. If > you are experiencing difficulty in getting the plane > to enter a spin - as > with a far forward CG - the application of opposite > aileron may provide just > the needed extra stimulus. The RV4 spins rapidly, > with the nose rising to the > horizon and back down vertically with each rotation, > rather similar to that > experienced in the P51 Mustang - but losing less > than half the altitude per > turn. I have experienced the RV4 flip on its back in > entering a spin only > with a very aft CG, entering with nose way high. In > all of these > circumstances, the RV 4 spin is nothing to be > feared, and recovery is > immediate within half a turn, applying standard > recovery technique - > deliberate application of full opposite rudder, > followed by checking forward > on the stick as soon as the rotation slows. The spin > can be flattened by > application of power, but this is not a good idea! > Ken Melvin, N36KM. > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: Fw: RV-List: O-320 engines
Date: Feb 01, 2001
I've been looking and looking... Anyone see one of those $4-$5 K H2AD's please let me know A.S.A.P. Thanks, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: <pcondon(at)csc.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: O-320 engines > Very politely....B.S. One of the best aviation bargains in Lycommings is > the H2AD. For 4 or 5000 dollars you can strap one on the RV and go flying. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 05, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: RV-List: O-320 engines
There is a Lycoming shop in Denton TX selling runout AD's for $3200. Email me @ smokyray(at)yahoo.com for details. Rob Ray N557RR --- Chuck Rabaut wrote: > > > I've been looking and looking... Anyone see one of > those $4-$5 K H2AD's > please let me know A.S.A.P. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pcondon(at)csc.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: O-320 engines > > > > Very politely....B.S. One of the best aviation > bargains in Lycommings is > > the H2AD. For 4 or 5000 dollars you can strap one > on the RV and go flying. > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: I'm still looking for an engine
Date: Feb 08, 2001
Hi Guys and Gals, I found out that the 0320 H2AD's won't hang on my dyna-focal mount (they require a special dyna-focal mount). I'm looking for an engine with a few hundred hours left before I have to learn over hauling. Can be an O-235, O-290, or an O-320, I just need something in-expensive that will hook up to my RV-4 dyna-focal mount. Any and all referrals would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all, in advance, for your assistance. Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
From: MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 09, 2001
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/08/01
In a message dated 2/8/01 11:55:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, rv4-list-digest(at)matronics.com writes: > > Hi Guys and Gals, > > I found out that the 0320 H2AD's won't hang on my dyna-focal mount (they > require a special dyna-focal mount). I'm looking for an engine with a few > hundred hours left before I have to learn over hauling. Can be an O-235, > O-290, or an O-320, I just need something in-expensive that will hook up to > my RV-4 dyna-focal mount. Any and all referrals would be greatly > appreciated. Thank you all, in advance, for your assistance. > > Chuck Remember the immortal words from the past "There is NO subistute for horse power " > wood prop on your RV4 > you would be aft CG with a 110lb passenger & no baggage. Tim Barnes N39TB > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Tate" <tate(at)onlinemac.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/08/01
Date: Feb 09, 2001
I just learned there are two different dyna-focal mounts besides the old straight mount. Very confusing. Is there a way to know by engine number what mount it has? Does Van's support all three? Ed Tate -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:22 AM Subject: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/08/01 In a message dated 2/8/01 11:55:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, rv4-list-digest(at)matronics.com writes: > > Hi Guys and Gals, > > I found out that the 0320 H2AD's won't hang on my dyna-focal mount (they > require a special dyna-focal mount). I'm looking for an engine with a few > hundred hours left before I have to learn over hauling. Can be an O-235, > O-290, or an O-320, I just need something in-expensive that will hook up to > my RV-4 dyna-focal mount. Any and all referrals would be greatly > appreciated. Thank you all, in advance, for your assistance. > > Chuck Remember the immortal words from the past "There is NO subistute for horse power " > wood prop on your RV4 > you would be aft CG with a 110lb passenger & no baggage. Tim Barnes N39TB > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 11, 2001
From: Elbie(at)aol.com (by way of Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com>)
Subject: Announcement
2/9/2001 Fellow Pilots and Builders: EM aviation is pleased to announce that the RiteAngle III Angle of Attack system is in production. I know this has been a long, long wait for some of you, however I will not sell a system that is not up to my standards. The long delay was partially caused by the total new design required after the RiteAngle 2000 system was terminated. The remainder of the delay was insuring the system met all our requirements such as both hot and cold environment testing. The first production group of systems off the line are being again extensively tested for approximately 2 weeks before we deliver any systems to insure there are no "bugs" appearing. When all production testing is accomplished I will ship according to who has sent in the order form via fax or US mail. (Again, DO NOT send your credit card number via e-mail! I DO NOT have a secure e-mail line.) If you want a spot in line for early delivery you can request this via e-mail, and mail your check or CC number. At present time I estimate 4- 10 weeks before your delivery, depending on when I receive your payment. To those of you who have been in correspondence with me for the last year, thanks for your belief in EM aviation's product, and soon you will have a product in your hands. I honor my correspondence of the quoted price. Current price $295 + mount & options see web site for information. www.riteangle.com Elbie Mendenhall President EM Aviation, LLC P NE Prairie Rd Brush Prairie WA 98606 360-260-0772 www.riteangle.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 12, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/08/01
Van's supports all three mounts. Narrow deck 0-320's with no dash letters after 0-320 and certain E series wide deck 0-320E2A's and 0-360A1A's dash numbers have straight mounts. All the rest have dynafocal mounts. --- Ed Tate wrote: > > > I just learned there are two different dyna-focal > mounts besides the old > straight mount. Very confusing. Is there a way to > know by engine number > what mount it has? Does Van's support all three? > Ed Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com]On > Behalf Of > MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:22 AM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 1 Msgs - > 02/08/01 > > > > In a message dated 2/8/01 11:55:46 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > rv4-list-digest(at)matronics.com writes: > > > > > > > Hi Guys and Gals, > > > > I found out that the 0320 H2AD's won't hang on > my dyna-focal mount > (they > > require a special dyna-focal mount). I'm looking > for an engine with a > few > > hundred hours left before I have to learn over > hauling. Can be an O-235, > > O-290, or an O-320, I just need something > in-expensive that will hook up > to > > my RV-4 dyna-focal mount. Any and all referrals > would be greatly > > appreciated. Thank you all, in advance, for your > assistance. > > > > Chuck > > > Remember the immortal words from the past "There is > NO subistute for horse > power " > wood prop on your RV4 > > you would be aft CG with a 110lb passenger & no > baggage. > > Tim Barnes > N39TB > > > > > > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 12, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/08/01
Chuck, Van;'s does sell a mount for the H2AD. You may have to modify your cowling somewhat to fit the front part of your case under it, but it will work. By the way, when you rebuild the AD, BALANCE IT! It makes a huge difference. Rob PS: Re: Wood props. Tell Tim that an aft CG does not necessarily mean an out of limit CG. I have carried a 250 pounder in the back of mine (0-320 wood prop)within limits. Look at the loading numbers with full fuel and you will find it will be close to over gross and max aft CG range but flies fine. Your mileage may vary, but I don't recommend you go out and do slow flight or stalls with a big backseater, and you should fly final slightly faster IAW the graph. --- MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/8/01 11:55:46 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > rv4-list-digest(at)matronics.com writes: > > > > > > > Hi Guys and Gals, > > > > I found out that the 0320 H2AD's won't hang on > my dyna-focal mount (they > > require a special dyna-focal mount). I'm looking > for an engine with a few > > hundred hours left before I have to learn over > hauling. Can be an O-235, > > O-290, or an O-320, I just need something > in-expensive that will hook up to > > my RV-4 dyna-focal mount. Any and all referrals > would be greatly > > appreciated. Thank you all, in advance, for your > assistance. > > > > Chuck > > > Remember the immortal words from the past "There is > NO subistute for horse > power " > wood prop on your RV4 > > you would be aft CG with a 110lb passenger & no > baggage. > > Tim Barnes > N39TB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 12, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: Engine info wanted
Guys, Here is the shop in TX selling runout H2AD's... Bobby's engines: 940-682-4220 Rob Ray Note: forwarded message attached. Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:15:29 -0500 From: "Richard J. Cathriner" <RCathriner(at)compuserve.com> Subject: Engine info wanted Rob, The place that I bought the O320-D2J was called "Bobby's Planes and Parts". He had several E2D, D2J, and H2AD engines stacked on shelves. His phone number is: 940-682-4220. Regards, Rick *************************************************************************** ************** >Pcondon(at)csc.com< ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ed Tate" <tate(at)onlinemac.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/08/01
Date: Feb 12, 2001
Thanks for the very useful info. Does anyone have similar knowledge on the O-235 engines and their mounts? Ed -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of rob ray Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 10:30 AM Subject: RE: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/08/01 Van's supports all three mounts. Narrow deck 0-320's with no dash letters after 0-320 and certain E series wide deck 0-320E2A's and 0-360A1A's dash numbers have straight mounts. All the rest have dynafocal mounts. --- Ed Tate wrote: > > > I just learned there are two different dyna-focal > mounts besides the old > straight mount. Very confusing. Is there a way to > know by engine number > what mount it has? Does Van's support all three? > Ed Tate > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv4-list-server(at)matronics.com]On > Behalf Of > MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:22 AM > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 1 Msgs - > 02/08/01 > > > In a message dated 2/8/01 11:55:46 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > rv4-list-digest(at)matronics.com writes: > > > > > > > Hi Guys and Gals, > > > > I found out that the 0320 H2AD's won't hang on > my dyna-focal mount > (they > > require a special dyna-focal mount). I'm looking > for an engine with a > few > > hundred hours left before I have to learn over > hauling. Can be an O-235, > > O-290, or an O-320, I just need something > in-expensive that will hook up > to > > my RV-4 dyna-focal mount. Any and all referrals > would be greatly > > appreciated. Thank you all, in advance, for your > assistance. > > > > Chuck > > > Remember the immortal words from the past "There is > NO subistute for horse > power " > wood prop on your RV4 > > you would be aft CG with a 110lb passenger & no > baggage. > > Tim Barnes > N39TB > > > > > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: Looking for a Dyna-Focal Engine for my RV-4
Date: Feb 19, 2001
Hi Guys (and Gals), My last two engine purchases went south on me. The H2AD's don't fit and I found an O-235 but it subsequently turned out to be a conical mount. Sooo I'm back in the market, cash at the ready, plane justa sittin' waitin', and I'm still looking for an O-320, O-290, or even an O-235, dyna-focal mount engine. Please, if you can refer me to someone or refer them to me I'd appreciate it. Thank you, in advance, for your assistance. Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 19, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for a Dyna-Focal Engine for my RV-4
Hi Chuck; Try a buddy of mine in AL who builds Lycomings. His name is Don and he told me he could build you an engine in a short period of time you if would like... Call him @1-800-344-7918. Don's Engines. Good Luck Rob Ray N557RR --- Chuck Rabaut wrote: > > > Hi Guys (and Gals), > > My last two engine purchases went south on me. > The H2AD's don't fit > and I found an O-235 but it subsequently turned out > to be a conical mount. > Sooo I'm back in the market, cash at the ready, > plane justa sittin' > waitin', and I'm still looking for an O-320, O-290, > or even an O-235, > dyna-focal mount engine. Please, if you can refer > me to someone or refer > them to me I'd appreciate it. Thank you, in > advance, for your assistance. > > Chuck > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: Does an O-320 E2D, wide deck, fit an RV-4 cowling?
Date: Feb 26, 2001
To anyone who knows... Does an O-320 E2D, wide deck, fit an RV-4 cowling? Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 26, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Does an O-320 E2D, wide deck, fit an RV-4 cowling?
Hi Chuck; Yes, the E2D fits nicely under the -4 cowling. The wide deck is only 2.5 inches wider overall than my narrow-deck dash nothing. The -4 was actually designed to cowl the wide deck E2D, E3D and D2J and you should have no worries getting it to fit. Keep in mind that some guys have shoe-horned an angle valve IO-360 in there! Rob Ray N557RR --- Chuck Rabaut wrote: > > > To anyone who knows... Does an O-320 E2D, wide deck, > fit an RV-4 cowling? > > Chuck > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: DvdBock(at)aol.com
Date: Mar 04, 2001
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/03/01
Heres a win-win offer! I am about to embark on a first-time Rocket kit build and this may be my only one. I would like to save $ by acquiring used tools from a Vans or derivative builder who is finished or about to complete, and also may not be planning another. Please do not reply through the list, but directly to me: DvdBock(at)AOL.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: Fw: RV-List: Required test flight hours (25 or 40?)
Date: Mar 05, 2001
Well it isn't really a big deal... But have you tried to stay in that "confined area" for very long? It is difficult as sweet, fast, smooth, as these things fly... At least my 4's anyway. Chuck Subject: Re: RV-List: Required test flight hours (25 or 40?) > --> RV-List message posted by: Eric.J.Henson(at)chase.com > > > A friend of mine only had to do 25 hours on a Kitfox with a Suburu & PSRU. > This came from the FAA rep. > > Since you do not have a fuel injection system > > that is certified you will have to do the 40 hrs. > > Stewart RV4 Colo. > > > > Not necessarily, I think it well depend upon the examiner more than > anything. > A friend of mine here only had to do 25 hours with his Lancair 360 with the > same > setup. The prop/engine combination seems to be the big factor in > determining if > you get 25 or 40 hours. I notice a lot of posts on the list wondering if a > person > has to do 25 or 40 hours. I personally don't see the big deal, when you > first > start flying your RV it well be so much fun that you can do 40 hours in no > time > at all. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 07, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: RV-List: Required test flight hours (25 or 40?)
While standing around OSH 5 years ago, with my then brand-new RV4 a RV6 guy quoted his confined area in TX was stretched a bit to include the bahamas one day... I told him I had strayed slightly from FL to OSH on mine.... Rob --- Chuck Rabaut wrote: > > > Well it isn't really a big deal... But have you > tried to stay in that > "confined area" for very long? It is difficult as > sweet, fast, smooth, as > these things fly... At least my 4's anyway. > > Chuck > > > Subject: Re: RV-List: Required test flight hours (25 > or 40?) > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: > Eric.J.Henson(at)chase.com > > > > > > A friend of mine only had to do 25 hours on a > Kitfox with a Suburu & PSRU. > > This came from the FAA rep. > > > Since you do not have a fuel injection system > > > that is certified you will have to do the 40 > hrs. > > > Stewart RV4 Colo. > > > > > > > Not necessarily, I think it well depend upon the > examiner more than > > anything. > > A friend of mine here only had to do 25 hours with > his Lancair 360 with > the > > same > > setup. The prop/engine combination seems to be the > big factor in > > determining if > > you get 25 or 40 hours. I notice a lot of posts on > the list wondering if a > > person > > has to do 25 or 40 hours. I personally don't see > the big deal, when you > > first > > start flying your RV it well be so much fun that > you can do 40 hours in no > > time > > at all. > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: SSPRING83(at)aol.com
Date: Mar 11, 2001
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest:
Hi Folks, Does any one know of a good remote automotive oil filter set up for an RV4? And does it make a difference if the oil goes thru the filter BEFORE it goes thru the cooler or AFTER? Have been looking for a way to mount the filter on the firewall next to the cooler as there is,nt the room to mount it on the the accessorie case on the engine. Any tips would be appreciated............ Thanks, George ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 11, 2001
From: Earl Fortner <e.fortner(at)worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest:
I have a screwon adapter on my O-320 and there is about 2 1/2 inches clearance between the end of filter and firewall. Earl RV4 SSPRING83(at)aol.com wrote: > > Hi Folks, > Does any one know of a good remote automotive oil > filter set up for an RV4? And does it make a difference if the oil goes thru > the filter BEFORE it goes thru the cooler or AFTER? Have been looking for a > way to mount the filter on the firewall next to the cooler as there is,nt the > room to mount it on the the accessorie case on the engine. Any tips would be > appreciated............ Thanks, George > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 11, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List Digest:
I use a standard Lycoming adapter on my -4 with an 0-320 dash nothing/CH48110 filter and conical mounts. Clearance is 5 inches. Make sure to seat the vernatherm to the adapter by lapping or machining to prevent oil leakage past the vernatherm and less efficient cooling. Rob Ray N557RR --- Earl Fortner wrote: > > > I have a screwon adapter on my O-320 and there is > about 2 1/2 inches clearance > between the end of filter and firewall. > Earl RV4 > > SSPRING83(at)aol.com wrote: > > > > > Hi Folks, > > Does any one know of a > good remote automotive oil > > filter set up for an RV4? And does it make a > difference if the oil goes thru > > the filter BEFORE it goes thru the cooler or > AFTER? Have been looking for a > > way to mount the filter on the firewall next to > the cooler as there is,nt the > > room to mount it on the the accessorie case on the > engine. Any tips would be > > appreciated............ Thanks, George > > > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
<"rv-list(at)matronics.com, Jim_Andrews(at)tivoli.com"(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fw: RV-List: CG Program Available From Matronics (long)
Date: Mar 18, 2001
Bob, I've lost my decoder ring... Please confirm message as... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Japundza <Bob.Japundza(at)realmed.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: CG Program Available From Matronics (long) > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Japundza" > > VGhlcmUgYXJlIGFwcHJveGltYXRlbHkgdGVuIC5kbGwgZmlsZXMgdGhhdCBuZWVkIHRvIGJlIHJl > Z2lzdGVyZWQgb24gYQ0KY29tcHV0ZXIgZm9yIHRoZSBWaXN1YWwgQmFzaWMgcnVudGltZS4gIEZv > ciB0aG9zZSBvZiB5b3UgdGhhdCBoYWQgdGhlIGNnDQpwcm9ncmFtIHdvcmtpbmcgd2l0aG91dCB0 > aGUgbmVjZXNzYXJ5IGZpbGVzLCBpdCBpcyBiZWNhdXNlIGEgcHJldmlvdXMNCmluc3RhbGwgb2Yg > YW5vdGhlciBwcm9ncmFtIGhhZCBhbHJlYWxkeSByZWdpc3RlcmVkIHRoZSByZXF1aXJlZCBmaWxl > cy4NClRoZSB0ZWNobmljYWwgdGVybSBmb3IgdGhpcyBpcyAiZGxsIGhlbGwiOyBzb21ldGltZXMg > dGhpbmdzIGNhbiBnZXQNCnNjcmV3ZWQgdXAgaWYgb2xkZXIgdmVyc2lvbnMgb2Ygc3lzdGVtIC5k > bGwncyBvdmVyd3JpdGUgbmV3ZXIgdmVyc2lvbnMuDQogDQpUaGUgaW5zdGFsbGVyIEkgbWFkZSBm > b3IgVG9tJ3MgcHJvZ3JhbSB3aWxsIHJlZ2lzdGVyIHRoZSByZXF1aXJlZCAuZGxsJ3MNCmZvciB5 > b3Ugd2hlbiB0aGUgc2V0dXAgcHJvZ3JhbSBydW5zLiAgSXQgaXMgbG9jYXRlZCBhdDoNCiANCmZ0 > cDovL3d3dy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tL3B1Yi9QdWJsaWMvdC5ndW1tb0B2ZXJpem9uLm5ldC9jZ3Nl > dHVwLnppcA0KIA0KVW56aXAgdGhlIGZpbGUgaW50byBhIGRpcmVjdG9yeSwgYW5kIHJ1biBzZXR1 > cC5leGUuICBUaGlzIHdpbGwgdGFrZSBjYXJlDQpvZiB0aGUgImRsbCBoZWxsIiBwcm9ibGVtIHNv > bWUgb2YgeW91IGFyZSBlbmNvdW50ZXJpbmcsIGFuZCB3aWxsDQpyZWdpc3RlciByZWNlbnQgdmVy > c2lvbnNvZiB0aGUgcnVudGltZSAuZGxsJ3MsIGFsb25nIHdpdGggcHV0dGluZyB0aGUgY2cNCnBy > b2dyYW0gaW4geW91ciBzdGFydCBtZW51LiAgSWYgZGlhbG9nIGJveCBwb3BzIHVwIGR1cmluZyB0 > aGUgaW5zdGFsbA0KcHJvZ3Jlc3Mgc2F5aW5nIHNvbWV0aGluZyB0byB0aGUgZWZmZWN0IG9mLCAi > QSBuZXdlciB2ZXJzaW9uIG9mIHRoaXMNCmZpbGUgYWxyZWFkeSBleGlzdHMgb24geW91ciBjb21w > dXRlciwgZG8geW91IHdpc2ggdG8gcmV0YWluIHRoZSBuZXdlcg0KdmVyc2lvbiIgY2xpY2sgeWVz > Lg0KIA0KQm9iIEphcHVuZHphDQpSVi02IE4yNDRCSiBPLTM2MEMvUyA5MCBob3Vycw0KDQoNCiAN > Cg== > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
, "T.A.Rabaut"
Subject: Fw: The Importance of Clear Communication!!!
Date: Apr 08, 2001
Okay guys... (and Gals) Here's one for the log books! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: Fw: The Importance of Clear Communication!!! Subject: The Importance of Clear Communication!!! > > READ THIS BEFORE LOOKING AT THE PICTURE! > > > > You are the chief airplane washer at the company hangar and you: > > > > (1) Hook high pressure hose up to the soap suds machine. > > > > (2) Turn the machine "on". > > > > (3) Receive an important call and have to leave work to go home. > > > > (4) As you depart for home, you yell to Don, your assistant, > > "Don, turn it off." > > > > (5) Assistant Don thinks he hears, "Don't turn it off." > > He shrugs, and leaves the area right after you. > > > > (6) Refer to attachment for the results. > > > >> > > > Actually happened! Now see the picture of the consequences. > > - ------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
, "T.A.Rabaut" ,
Subject: Picture I've been trying to attach
Date: Apr 08, 2001
Hopefully this attachment will get to you guys/gals. Chuck ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 08, 2001
From: John Oliveira <Oliveira(at)eznet.net>
Subject: Re: Picture I've been trying to attach
The groups program does not appear to pass through attachments. I believe you need to refer to a web site or other location where people can get the files John Oliveira RV9A N909RV Reserved Chuck Rabaut wrote: > > Hopefully this attachment will get to you guys/gals. > > Chuck > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>

Subject: Fw: Please Post "Outside" the list for folks to enjoy
Date: Apr 08, 2001
Okay... okay... I forgot you can't squeeze pictures through Matt's system. Tim was kind enough to set it up at the site listed. Thank you Tim for your assistance. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Bryan <timbryan(at)oregontrail.net> go directly at www.eaa617.org/Whoops.htm ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: Fw: RV-List: Everybody went to S & F except me!
Date: Apr 13, 2001
Jim, You are oh so right!!! Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Bower <rvbuilder(at)hotmail.com> > Anyhoo, that's why Van's makes RVs in so many flavors, right? At least we > have to study plans, measure, make jigs, measure, drill, measure, sweat, > measure, and curse to build our airplanes like real men do! (Instead of > those wussy -7 & -9 guys!) > > Jim ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jim Baker" <bakerje(at)kfalls.net>
Subject: Prop Balancer
Date: Apr 16, 2001
I am interested in a prop balancer for my RV-4 with a wooden prop if any one has one they would be interested in selling. If not where do I find a new one? Thanks, Jim Baker N513J ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 18, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Prop Balancer
Jim; Grab a Sport Aviation Magazine and look in the classified ads under Props. Look for Mark Landoll's Harmonic balancers. They really work and add 12 pounds to the nose on -4's which is a plus. Rob Ray N557RR --- Jim Baker wrote: > > > I am interested in a prop balancer for my RV-4 with > a wooden prop if any > one has one they would be interested in selling. If > not where do I find > a new one? > > Thanks, > > Jim Baker > N513J > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 18, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: RV-List: Everybody went to S & F except me!
Hi Chuck; Coming from a No-Cal'r who flew his RV4 to SNF, the Dash Seven looked mighty nice, even if all you have to do is dump a bucket of clecoes in the box, shake it and an airplane pops out....Bottom line: RV's ruled, others drooled. The Cross country of two RV4's from NoCal out to Lakeland was an adventure all it's own. 12 hours of flying and five fuel stops. I counted 38 RV's on the grass Sunday plus the four in front of Van's tent and Bruce Bohannons Tiger and -4. Alot more came and went during the week. I even had a chance to visit with the man himself for a casual chat on several subjects. I asked him if he was going to discontinue the -4 now that the -8 was so popular. He responded with a chuckle: If I did that, how would the Harmon Rocket guys get parts... --- Chuck Rabaut wrote: > > > Jim, > > You are oh so right!!! > > Chuck > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Bower <rvbuilder(at)hotmail.com> > > Anyhoo, that's why Van's makes RVs in so many > flavors, right? At least we > > have to study plans, measure, make jigs, measure, > drill, measure, sweat, > > measure, and curse to build our airplanes like > real men do! (Instead of > > those wussy -7 & -9 guys!) > > > > Jim > > > > through > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > Matronics! > > > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chuck Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: Fw: RV-List: Everybody went to S & F except me!
Date: Apr 19, 2001
Rob, I'm glad you had fun and that's great to hear, but you should've reminded him that a Quick Build 4 is what's really needed (I mean I'm not complaining {well not at this moment} but God knows the 4 is way cool but God also knows you sure suffer trying to figure out how to get it together). Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:34 PM Subject: Re: RV4-List: Fw: RV-List: Everybody went to S & F except me! > --> RV-List message posted by: rob ray > > Hi Chuck; > > Coming from a No-Cal'r who flew his RV4 to SNF, the > Dash Seven looked mighty nice, even if all you have to > do is dump a bucket of clecoes in the box, shake it > and an airplane pops out....Bottom line: RV's ruled, > others drooled. > The Cross country of two RV4's from NoCal out to > Lakeland was an adventure all it's own. 12 hours of > flying and five fuel stops. I counted 38 RV's on the > grass Sunday plus the four in front of Van's tent and > Bruce Bohannons Tiger and -4. Alot more came and went > during the week. I even had a chance to visit with > the man himself for a casual chat on several subjects. > I asked him if he was going to discontinue the -4 now > that the -8 was so popular. He responded with a > chuckle: If I did that, how would the Harmon Rocket > guys get parts... > > > --- Chuck Rabaut wrote: > > > > > > Jim, > > > > You are oh so right!!! > > > > Chuck > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jim Bower <rvbuilder(at)hotmail.com> > > > Anyhoo, that's why Van's makes RVs in so many > > flavors, right? At least we > > > have to study plans, measure, make jigs, measure, > > drill, measure, sweat, > > > measure, and curse to build our airplanes like > > real men do! (Instead of > > > those wussy -7 & -9 guys!) > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > through > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Steve Mullins" <smullins(at)lib.drury.edu>
Subject: Bottom Cowling reinforcement
Date: Apr 19, 2001
Hellow everyone. I am a new RV4 owner, and could use some ideas on how to reinforce my bottom cowl so that aerodynamic pressure at cruise speeds won't push the cowl in to the point of the exhaust stacks rubbing and wearing through the cowl. Any ideas would be appreciated. Steve Mullins, PhD. Associate Professor of Economics Drury University 417 873 7299 (Office) 417 873 7537 (Fax) 417 889 5609 (Home) ----- Original Message ----- From: "rob ray" <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:34 PM Subject: Re: RV4-List: Fw: RV-List: Everybody went to S & F except me! > > Hi Chuck; > > Coming from a No-Cal'r who flew his RV4 to SNF, the > Dash Seven looked mighty nice, even if all you have to > do is dump a bucket of clecoes in the box, shake it > and an airplane pops out....Bottom line: RV's ruled, > others drooled. > The Cross country of two RV4's from NoCal out to > Lakeland was an adventure all it's own. 12 hours of > flying and five fuel stops. I counted 38 RV's on the > grass Sunday plus the four in front of Van's tent and > Bruce Bohannons Tiger and -4. Alot more came and went > during the week. I even had a chance to visit with > the man himself for a casual chat on several subjects. > I asked him if he was going to discontinue the -4 now > that the -8 was so popular. He responded with a > chuckle: If I did that, how would the Harmon Rocket > guys get parts... > > > --- Chuck Rabaut wrote: > > > > > > Jim, > > > > You are oh so right!!! > > > > Chuck > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jim Bower <rvbuilder(at)hotmail.com> > > > Anyhoo, that's why Van's makes RVs in so many > > flavors, right? At least we > > > have to study plans, measure, make jigs, measure, > > drill, measure, sweat, > > > measure, and curse to build our airplanes like > > real men do! (Instead of > > > those wussy -7 & -9 guys!) > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > through > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 19, 2001
From: rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bottom Cowling reinforcement
Hi Steve; What type exhaust are you using, how much clearance do the pipes have when not going 150 knots and how is your cowl attached? Rob Ray RV4 N557RR --- Steve Mullins wrote: > > > Hellow everyone. I am a new RV4 owner, and could use > some ideas on how to > reinforce my bottom cowl so that aerodynamic > pressure at cruise speeds won't > push the cowl in to the point of the exhaust stacks > rubbing and wearing > through the cowl. Any ideas would be appreciated. > > Steve Mullins, PhD. > Associate Professor of Economics > Drury University > 417 873 7299 (Office) > 417 873 7537 (Fax) > 417 889 5609 (Home) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rob ray" <smokyray(at)yahoo.com> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:34 PM > Subject: Re: RV4-List: Fw: RV-List: Everybody went > to S & F except me! > > > > > > > Hi Chuck; > > > > Coming from a No-Cal'r who flew his RV4 to SNF, > the > > Dash Seven looked mighty nice, even if all you > have to > > do is dump a bucket of clecoes in the box, shake > it > > and an airplane pops out....Bottom line: RV's > ruled, > > others drooled. > > The Cross country of two RV4's from NoCal out to > > Lakeland was an adventure all it's own. 12 hours > of > > flying and five fuel stops. I counted 38 RV's on > the > > grass Sunday plus the four in front of Van's tent > and > > Bruce Bohannons Tiger and -4. Alot more came and > went > > during the week. I even had a chance to visit > with > > the man himself for a casual chat on several > subjects. > > I asked him if he was going to discontinue the -4 > now > > that the -8 was so popular. He responded with a > > chuckle: If I did that, how would the Harmon > Rocket > > guys get parts... > > > > > > --- Chuck Rabaut wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > You are oh so right!!! > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Jim Bower <rvbuilder(at)hotmail.com> > > > > Anyhoo, that's why Van's makes RVs in so many > > > flavors, right? At least we > > > > have to study plans, measure, make jigs, > measure, > > > drill, measure, sweat, > > > > measure, and curse to build our airplanes like > > > real men do! (Instead of > > > > those wussy -7 & -9 guys!) > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > Matronics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > >

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