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Seven UFO Crashes & Retrievals in New Mexico ... - Chuck Wade

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<strong>Seven</strong> <strong>UFO</strong> <strong>Crashes</strong> & <strong>Retrievals</strong> <strong>in</strong> <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong><br />

1945–1948<br />

Presented at the 14th Annual Aztec <strong>UFO</strong> Symposium March 26, 2011<br />

Greet<strong>in</strong>gs. My name is <strong>Chuck</strong> <strong>Wade</strong>. I truly feel it is an honor to stand before you today<br />

to give you my presentation entitled ―<strong>Seven</strong> <strong>UFO</strong> <strong>Crashes</strong> and <strong>Retrievals</strong> <strong>in</strong> <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>,<br />

1945 – 1948‖.<br />

The picture on this page is from my website’s home page. In my hands I am hold<strong>in</strong>g two<br />

pieces of foil that Mr. Art Campbell and I retrieved from the <strong>UFO</strong> crash site on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s<br />

of San August<strong>in</strong>, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>.<br />

I am now go<strong>in</strong>g to pass around a piece of foil for you to see. Art and I collected this foil<br />

from the Barney Barnett <strong>UFO</strong> crash site on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong> 2004. When<br />

each of you leaves this presentation, you can say that you held a piece of foil that came<br />

to Earth from somewhere OUT THERE <strong>in</strong> the Universe. Please be gentle with this piece<br />

of foil, and do not try to bend or crumple it.<br />

Please don’t ask questions dur<strong>in</strong>g the talk. If there is time, I will be happy to take questions<br />

at the end. Also, I will be here all day for the symposium and encourage you to<br />

<strong>in</strong>troduce yourselves and cont<strong>in</strong>ue the discussion.<br />

1


I’ll start my presentation by <strong>in</strong>troduc<strong>in</strong>g you to the map of <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong> with<br />

the seven <strong>UFO</strong> crash sites and related features identified.<br />

2


The first <strong>UFO</strong> crash was at<br />

San Antonio, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>,<br />

<strong>in</strong> August 1945. This craft<br />

was 25 to 30’ long and<br />

―avocado-shaped‖.<br />

The second <strong>UFO</strong> crash happened<br />

the night of 1-2 July<br />

1947 on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San<br />

August<strong>in</strong>, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>.<br />

This craft was 32’ <strong>in</strong><br />

diameter.<br />

The third <strong>UFO</strong> crash is be<strong>in</strong>g<br />

<strong>in</strong>vestigated by <strong>Chuck</strong><br />

Zukowski and his sister,<br />

Debbie Ziegelmeyer. They<br />

are call<strong>in</strong>g this site the Alternative<br />

Site, southwest<br />

of Roswell. I theorize this<br />

crash happened the night of July 4 th , 1947 and could possibly have been<br />

a 25’ oval-shaped craft.<br />

The fourth <strong>UFO</strong> crash site is the Haut/Corso site north of Roswell that<br />

occurred the night of July 4 th , 1947. This craft was 12-15’ long, not quite<br />

as wide, and 6’ tall.<br />

The fifth <strong>UFO</strong> site is the Corona Debris Field located 75 miles northwest of<br />

Roswell and 40 miles southeast of my home town – Corona, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>.<br />

We do not know the size of the craft, but we do know that it scattered<br />

truckloads of debris at the Corona Debris Field.<br />

The sixth <strong>UFO</strong> crash site is the Jim Ragsdale site located 53 miles west of<br />

Roswell <strong>in</strong> the foothills of the Capitan Mounta<strong>in</strong>s. This craft was 20’ <strong>in</strong><br />

diameter.<br />

The seventh <strong>UFO</strong> crash site is located <strong>in</strong> Hart Canyon about 9 miles north<br />

of where we are assembled here <strong>in</strong> Aztec, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>. This craft was<br />

100’ <strong>in</strong> diameter and completely <strong>in</strong>tact.<br />

3


Most of you do not know me so I would like to give<br />

you a brief bio of myself.<br />

I was born and raised <strong>in</strong> the small town of Corona,<br />

<strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>. I graduated from Corona High<br />

School <strong>in</strong> 1957. My dad owned the <strong>Wade</strong> Bar <strong>in</strong><br />

Corona for 42 years. I truly wanted to be an<br />

eng<strong>in</strong>eer so I tried college a couple of times, but I<br />

did poorly. I jo<strong>in</strong>ed the Navy <strong>in</strong> 1959 and served<br />

four years active duty with the Naval Seabees. I<br />

rema<strong>in</strong>ed <strong>in</strong> the Naval Seabee Reserves for the<br />

next 26 years.<br />

I did receive a Civil Eng<strong>in</strong>eer<strong>in</strong>g degree from <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong> State University<br />

<strong>in</strong> 1968. I even made the Dean’s List!<br />

I had the good fortune to marry Nancy <strong>in</strong> 1965. We have two grown children.<br />

After graduat<strong>in</strong>g from NMSU I worked for a large general contract<strong>in</strong>g<br />

company for eight years. One <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g assignment<br />

I had was when the company was awarded<br />

several contracts to build about 100 air traffic control<br />

towers, scattered throughout the United States.<br />

My part of this job was as Regional Super<strong>in</strong>tendent<br />

over 25 towers. For a while I had 19 towers under<br />

construction <strong>in</strong> 15 states. I consistently visited each<br />

tower at least once a week.<br />

We moved back to <strong>New</strong><br />

<strong>Mexico</strong> <strong>in</strong> 1977 and started our own general contract<strong>in</strong>g<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>ess <strong>in</strong> 1978. We ran <strong>Wade</strong> Build<strong>in</strong>g<br />

Company for twenty-two years. In 1999 my military<br />

retirement kicked <strong>in</strong> and we closed our company so<br />

that I could spend more time with my two hobbies,<br />

Alternative Energy and <strong>UFO</strong>’s.<br />

4


Shortly after Mac Brazel found a large<br />

amount of debris on the Foster Ranch, 30<br />

miles southeast of Corona <strong>in</strong> 1947, Mac<br />

came to Corona and requested my dad to<br />

close the bar and go out to the ranch to<br />

help him determ<strong>in</strong>e what caused all that debris.<br />

Mac told Dad that his sheep would not<br />

cross the debris to go to water. Dad decl<strong>in</strong>ed<br />

Mac’s request, but he DID suggest<br />

that Mac report this event to the military <strong>in</strong><br />

Roswell. I have heard my dad say that he<br />

wished he had gone with Mac.<br />

Mac then went up to the Corona Drugstore<br />

and asked Gerald<strong>in</strong>e and Archie Perk<strong>in</strong>s to go out to the ranch to help him.<br />

They also decl<strong>in</strong>ed to go with Mac. Gerald<strong>in</strong>e told me that she helped Mac<br />

make a phone call to Roswell. Gerald<strong>in</strong>e told me this story on two different<br />

occasions <strong>in</strong> front of her daughter.<br />

<strong>Wade</strong> Bar, Corona, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong><br />

5


In 1980 the book The Roswell Incident by Berl<strong>in</strong>er and<br />

Moore came out. As I was read<strong>in</strong>g this book I got more<br />

and more excited, for there it was <strong>in</strong> pr<strong>in</strong>t—items about a<br />

<strong>UFO</strong> crash<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> 1947 southeast of Corona—that I had<br />

known about s<strong>in</strong>ce I was seven years old!<br />

In the book, The Roswell Incident, there was a picture of<br />

Bill Brazel, Mac Brazel’s son. The caption under the picture<br />

stated that Bill had shown some artifacts from the debris field on the<br />

Foster Ranch, <strong>in</strong> my dad’s bar there <strong>in</strong> Corona. A few days later the military<br />

came to the ranch and confiscated the artifacts. I had known Bill s<strong>in</strong>ce I<br />

was a kid, so when I read that caption I called him at his home <strong>in</strong> Capitan,<br />

<strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>. We chatted<br />

for a while and he asked<br />

how my mother was do<strong>in</strong>g,<br />

for my dad had<br />

passed away three years<br />

before. Mother was do<strong>in</strong>g<br />

well at the time. I then<br />

read to Bill the caption<br />

under his picture and<br />

asked him, ―Is this true?‖<br />

He said, ―Yes!‖ I made up<br />

my m<strong>in</strong>d at that time that I<br />

wanted to know more<br />

about the <strong>UFO</strong> that<br />

crashed southeast of Corona<br />

<strong>in</strong> 1947. Over the<br />

last thirty years I have<br />

been on a quest to f<strong>in</strong>d<br />

out what my father did not<br />

see on the Foster Ranch.<br />

6


My mother, Ollie D <strong>Wade</strong>, passed away <strong>in</strong> 1989. A<br />

couple of years before her pass<strong>in</strong>g, Mother and I<br />

went out to the Proctor Ranch to visit with Loretta<br />

Proctor. Mother and Loretta had been lifelong<br />

friends. Loretta told Mother and me about Mac<br />

Brazel br<strong>in</strong>g<strong>in</strong>g some of the crash debris over to<br />

their house. Floyd, Loretta’s husband, was unable<br />

to cut the debris or even scratch it. He tried burn<strong>in</strong>g<br />

a piece and it would not burn. Loretta said that<br />

this stuff did not look like anyth<strong>in</strong>g she had ever<br />

seen before or<br />

s<strong>in</strong>ce.<br />

My dad, Jesse<br />

<strong>Wade</strong>, was born<br />

<strong>in</strong> 1902 <strong>in</strong> Arl<strong>in</strong>gton,<br />

Texas<br />

one year before the Wright Brothers made<br />

their historic flight. <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong> became a<br />

state <strong>in</strong> 1912; <strong>in</strong> the summer of 1912 my<br />

dad’s parents loaded him and all their belong<strong>in</strong>gs<br />

on a horse-drawn covered wagon<br />

and came to <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong> as homesteaders.<br />

Their homestead was close to where<br />

the Proctor Ranch is today.<br />

Dad and Floyd Proctor were childhood<br />

friends back <strong>in</strong> Texas. A few years after the<br />

<strong>Wade</strong>s came to <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>, Floyd Proctor<br />

rode a bicycle from Arl<strong>in</strong>gton, Texas to<br />

Corona, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong> and lived with Dad<br />

and his parents.<br />

7


In the mid 1990’s I purchased the latest book about the <strong>UFO</strong> crash near<br />

Corona. I was read<strong>in</strong>g this book <strong>in</strong> my vehicle outside the bar <strong>in</strong> Corona<br />

when Robert Porter came over to talk. Robert Porter is Loretta Proctor’s<br />

brother; Robert’s mother and younger sisters were our neighbors for many<br />

years there <strong>in</strong> Corona. Robert saw the book I was read<strong>in</strong>g and said, ―I’m<br />

mentioned <strong>in</strong> that book.‖ Robert had been a B-29 flight eng<strong>in</strong>eer stationed<br />

<strong>in</strong> Roswell <strong>in</strong> 1947. He told me that he had handled some of the boxes of<br />

debris that were retrieved from the Corona Debris Field and sent to Fort<br />

Worth. He said the boxes were very light.<br />

8


In the early 1940’s our government<br />

built what became<br />

the Los Alamos National<br />

Laboratories near Santa Fe,<br />

<strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>’s capital. The<br />

purpose of this facility was<br />

to research and build an<br />

atomic bomb. While Los<br />

Alamos was be<strong>in</strong>g built,<br />

three High-Powered Radar<br />

units were also built to<br />

Guard the skies over Los<br />

Alamos. One of these High-Powered Radar sites was at El Vado, <strong>New</strong><br />

<strong>Mexico</strong>, near the Colorado border. The second High-Powered Radar unit<br />

was built near Cont<strong>in</strong>ental Divide, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>, near the Arizona border.<br />

The third High-powered Radar was a mobile unit stationed at Moriarty close<br />

to the center of <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>. It is my theory that this mobile High-Powered<br />

Radar unit<br />

shot down<br />

several of<br />

the seven<br />

<strong>UFO</strong>’s that<br />

crashed and<br />

were retrieved<br />

<strong>in</strong><br />

<strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong><br />

<strong>in</strong> the years<br />

1945-1948.<br />

9


On July 16 th 1945 Los Alamos National Labs detonated the first atomic<br />

bomb at Tr<strong>in</strong>ity Site <strong>in</strong> <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>. Shortly thereafter two atomic bombs<br />

were dropped on Japan, end<strong>in</strong>g the war between the United States and Japan.<br />

After the war ended, the United States and Japan became friends. I hope<br />

that each of us will keep Japan and the Japanese people <strong>in</strong> our thoughts<br />

and prayers that Japan will recover from the terrible tragedies that they are<br />

go<strong>in</strong>g through.<br />

10


In August 1945, on a ranch west of Tr<strong>in</strong>ity Site at San Antonio, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>,<br />

two boys Jose and Reme, ages 9 and 7 were look<strong>in</strong>g for a cow that was<br />

about to have a calf. They heard a loud explosion similar to the atomic<br />

bomb explosion they had heard the month before. Follow<strong>in</strong>g the sound,<br />

they discovered a 25-30 foot avocado-shaped spacecraft with two live creatures<br />

<strong>in</strong> it. Over the next several days these boys hid and watched as the<br />

military retrieved this crashed <strong>UFO</strong>. They removed a piece of this spacecraft<br />

that they still have today. They never knew what happened to the<br />

creatures. Paola Harris is <strong>in</strong> contact with Reme Baca and Jose Padilla and<br />

is conduct<strong>in</strong>g an <strong>in</strong>vestigation of this crash site. I wish Paola well.<br />

11


We will now go to the <strong>UFO</strong> crash site on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of<br />

San August<strong>in</strong>, which is one of the two <strong>UFO</strong> crashes<br />

that were mentioned <strong>in</strong> the book, The Roswell Incident.<br />

On the morn<strong>in</strong>g of July 2, 1947 Gerald Anderson, his<br />

father, older brother, uncle, and cous<strong>in</strong> went from Albuquerque<br />

to the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong>. While look<strong>in</strong>g<br />

for moss agate, the Anderson Family came upon a 32foot<br />

crashed <strong>UFO</strong>. Shortly after this discovery an archaeologist<br />

and his five students<br />

arrived, followed by<br />

Barney Barnett <strong>in</strong> his Soil<br />

Conservation Service pickup.<br />

These civilians were mill<strong>in</strong>g<br />

around and discuss<strong>in</strong>g this<br />

crashed object when a military<br />

staff car arrived followed<br />

by a truckload of MP’s. The<br />

MP’s surrounded the civilians<br />

and were very harsh toward<br />

them, tell<strong>in</strong>g them they were<br />

not supposed to be there and<br />

that they would be killed if<br />

they ever told anyone what<br />

they had seen. Gerald Anderson<br />

has told me the military<br />

had assembled a flat bed<br />

truck, a crane, tanker trucks,<br />

and truckloads of supplies.<br />

There was even a bulldozer.<br />

Gerald said it looked like an<br />

<strong>in</strong>vasion force.<br />

12


For the past seven years, Nancy and<br />

I have held a Gallup <strong>UFO</strong> Film Festival.<br />

We show a crop circle film and<br />

two films that perta<strong>in</strong> to <strong>UFO</strong>’s, and<br />

we have a speaker. Two years ago,<br />

our speaker was Mr. Gerald Anderson.<br />

Gerald stood on stage for more<br />

than an hour tell<strong>in</strong>g of his experiences<br />

as an eyewitness to a crashed<br />

<strong>UFO</strong>. Last year, on October 23, 2010<br />

(my 71 st birthday) our speaker was<br />

Mr. Art Campbell, from the state of<br />

Oregon. Art told of his quest for and<br />

f<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>g the <strong>UFO</strong> crash site on the<br />

Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong>. Gerald<br />

Anderson also attended last year’s<br />

event. As I was announc<strong>in</strong>g the last<br />

film, three aliens walked on stage carry<strong>in</strong>g a birthday cake. The audience<br />

stood up and sang Happy Birthday to me. It was a surpris<strong>in</strong>g and wonderful<br />

experience.<br />

13


On the Monday after our 2010 Film Festival I had another wonderful experience:<br />

Gerald Anderson, Nancy and I went to the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong><br />

and visited the Barney Barnett<br />

<strong>UFO</strong> crash site. Gerald<br />

knew which gate to go<br />

through. I had the key. He<br />

knew where to stop when<br />

we got to the crash site. We<br />

went and stood at the spot<br />

where this craft first touched<br />

earth. We then went and<br />

stood by where the craft had<br />

made a gouge. What Gerald<br />

didn’t know was that we had<br />

retrieved some artifacts<br />

with<strong>in</strong> 50 feet of where we were stand<strong>in</strong>g. We then proceeded to the location<br />

where the craft and its crew had stopped. Gerald told Nancy and me<br />

that there was one live alien, one wounded alien, and two dead aliens.<br />

Gerald Anderson also served <strong>in</strong> the Navy. I am proud to call Gerald Anderson<br />

a personal friend and shipmate!<br />

14


Gerald, Nancy and I consulted with a professional artist, Be Sargent, to<br />

make this poster that depicts the <strong>UFO</strong> crash site on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San<br />

August<strong>in</strong> on July 2, 1947. The poster is available for sale with the proceeds<br />

go<strong>in</strong>g to the Aztec Library as a fundraiser.<br />

15


I would like to take this opportunity to clear up some misconceptions about<br />

the <strong>UFO</strong> that crashed on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong>.<br />

Gerald Anderson and his family were on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s July 2, 1947 and<br />

were eyewitnesses to a crashed <strong>UFO</strong>.<br />

Barney Barnett’s wife, Ruth, kept a diary entry for each day. Per her<br />

diary, Barney was ―on the high country‖ on 2 July 1947. High country<br />

was her description of the Pla<strong>in</strong>s.<br />

The archaeologist who was present at the crash site was Harvard grad<br />

student, Mr. Herbert Dick, later well known as Dr. Herbert Dick. Art<br />

Campbell has discovered documents show<strong>in</strong>g that Dick was on the<br />

Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong> on July 2 nd , 1947. The archaeologists told the<br />

Anderson family they had seen what they thought was a meteor<br />

about 11:00 the night before. In the morn<strong>in</strong>g they came over to the<br />

<strong>UFO</strong> crash site to see what was glitter<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> the sunlight.<br />

16


<strong>UFO</strong> Crash Site #3 southwest of Roswell—called the Alternative Site--is<br />

be<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>vestigated by <strong>Chuck</strong> Zukowski and his sister, Debbie Ziegelmeyer.<br />

Last year at the 4 th of July <strong>UFO</strong> event <strong>in</strong> Roswell, <strong>Chuck</strong> and Debbie<br />

showed a film of a lady say<strong>in</strong>g that over the July 4 th weekend <strong>in</strong> 1947 her<br />

family was mov<strong>in</strong>g from a ranch southwest of Roswell <strong>in</strong>to the City of<br />

Roswell. Military personnel showed up on their property but did not tell the<br />

family why they were there.<br />

17


Here is my theory about this site southwest of Roswell: Over time it has become<br />

apparent to me that there was one more crashed <strong>UFO</strong> than there<br />

were crash sites. Frank Kaufmann has said he was an eyewitness to a<br />

crashed <strong>UFO</strong> that was about 25 feet long and sort of oval <strong>in</strong> shape. Recently<br />

someone sent me a l<strong>in</strong>k to a YouTube <strong>in</strong>terview of Kaufmann where<br />

he said that the crash site was south of the Foster Ranch. When I went<br />

back for a second look at the video it had been taken down. This 25-footlong<br />

craft may be the one that was at the Alternative Crash Site.<br />

In the past year I have received from more than one source the picture that<br />

is on the left above. This picture is supposed to be the craft that Frank<br />

Kaufmann witnessed.<br />

STAY TUNED<br />

18


Now that we have some crashed <strong>UFO</strong>’s on the ground and some more to<br />

go, I will discuss my theory of why these <strong>UFO</strong>’s were SHOT DOWN!<br />

In June 1947 Kenneth Arnold <strong>in</strong> the State of Wash<strong>in</strong>gton was fly<strong>in</strong>g his<br />

plane when he saw 9 objects fly<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> formation and go<strong>in</strong>g about 1200<br />

miles per hour. This event<br />

made National news. Someone<br />

with authority (maybe the<br />

President of the United<br />

States?) gave the order to<br />

move that High-Powered mobile<br />

radar unit from Moriarty to<br />

the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong> to<br />

shoot down a <strong>UFO</strong>.<br />

The military accomplished<br />

their mission.<br />

Be<strong>in</strong>g on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong> is like be<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> the bottom of a bowl<br />

surrounded by mounta<strong>in</strong>s. In order to shoot down a <strong>UFO</strong> and track it to<br />

ground on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong>, the High-Powered radar and the<br />

track<strong>in</strong>g radar had to have been <strong>in</strong>side that bowl. Without the radar, the<br />

military would not have known where the <strong>UFO</strong> crashed and the <strong>in</strong>vasion<br />

force could not have arrived on the scene so quickly—less than 12 hours<br />

between the sight<strong>in</strong>g of the so-called meteor and the arrival of the <strong>in</strong>vasion<br />

force.<br />

Accord<strong>in</strong>g to my theory the<br />

mobile High-Powered radar<br />

unit was ordered to relocate<br />

from the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San<br />

August<strong>in</strong> to a new location<br />

somewhere northwest of Roswell.<br />

19


We will now turn our attention to the three <strong>UFO</strong> crash sites to the north,<br />

northwest, and west of Roswell. Art Campbell has located a brother and<br />

sister who were eyewitnesses to three HUGE FLASHES of light. In 1947 a<br />

mother and her two children were driv<strong>in</strong>g late at night between Carlsbad,<br />

<strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong> and Vaughn, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong>, when all of a sudden out of nowhere<br />

there were three huge flashes of light about three seconds apart.<br />

These flashes were so brilliant that they lit up the desert and the distant<br />

mounta<strong>in</strong>s. My theory is the flashes of light were caused by the High-<br />

Powered Radar’s energy beam com<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>to contact with electromagnetic<br />

crafts from outer space.<br />

20


One of the flashes of light was from the craft that caused the Corona Debris<br />

Field. Mac Brazel found the Corona Debris Field on the Foster Ranch, and<br />

went to Corona to ask my father to go see the site. My dad suggested that<br />

Mac report the event to the military <strong>in</strong> Roswell.<br />

21


A second<br />

flash of light<br />

was from<br />

the craft that<br />

crashed at<br />

the Haut/<br />

Corso site.<br />

Although<br />

the military<br />

were successful<br />

<strong>in</strong><br />

shoot<strong>in</strong>g<br />

down these<br />

two crafts,<br />

the small track<strong>in</strong>g radars may not have had time to lock onto the crafts<br />

before they crashed. Thus the military did not know they had been<br />

successful <strong>in</strong> shoot<strong>in</strong>g down the two crafts.<br />

Civilians found the Haut/Corso crash site and reported<br />

it to the military <strong>in</strong> Roswell. Per Walter<br />

Haut’s affidavit, the military went out and<br />

retrieved this craft that was ―12-15 feet long, not<br />

quite as wide, and 6 feet high, and more of an<br />

egg shape.‖<br />

I was <strong>in</strong> the audience at the Roswell Museum<br />

when an elderly man, Sergeant Earl Fulford,<br />

stated that he was the forklift operator that took a<br />

large crate out of a hangar to the flight l<strong>in</strong>e.<br />

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In the book, The Day<br />

After Roswell, Col.<br />

Corso stated that while<br />

he worked <strong>in</strong> the Pentagon<br />

he had command<br />

of artifacts from<br />

the <strong>UFO</strong> that crashed<br />

north of Roswell.


This leaves the third huge flash of light, which caused the crash at the Jim<br />

Ragsdale site.<br />

Yes! I am well aware that Jim Ragsdale signed two affidavits that gave two<br />

different locations for the crash site. The first affidavit placed the crash site<br />

north of Roswell, which is not correct. The correct location is 53 miles west<br />

of Roswell. I have recently learned a pair of new words that I feel justifies<br />

Jim Ragsdale sign<strong>in</strong>g two affidavits and Dr. Herbert Dick say<strong>in</strong>g he was not<br />

on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong> July 1947. These two words are ―ethically<br />

justified.‖ Both of these gentlemen were duty-bound not to disclose the<br />

truth about their <strong>in</strong>volvement as eyewitnesses to two crashed <strong>UFO</strong> crafts.<br />

What might be considered by some to be a white lie is ethically justified.<br />

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Per Jim Ragsdale’s second affidavit and the DVD, The Naked Truth: the<br />

Jim Ragsdale Story, here is my theory of what took place. About 11:00 pm<br />

the night of July 4 th, 1947 the military’s High-Powered Radar hit the <strong>UFO</strong>,<br />

caus<strong>in</strong>g the third huge flash of light that the brother and sister saw, which lit<br />

up the desert and the distant mounta<strong>in</strong>s. Jim stated that he and his companion<br />

were <strong>in</strong> the back of his pickup look<strong>in</strong>g up at the stars. Suddenly a<br />

tremendous flash ―as bright as a flame from a welder’s arc‖ occurred several<br />

miles to the north. This object was com<strong>in</strong>g toward Jim and his friend,<br />

―trail<strong>in</strong>g flames.‖ When the disabled craft got close to them it was mak<strong>in</strong>g a<br />

tremendous noise. It passed through the trees and struck the mounta<strong>in</strong> at a<br />

po<strong>in</strong>t a short distance from Jim’s truck.<br />

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Jim and his friend took flashlights and went over to the crashed craft, which<br />

was 20 feet <strong>in</strong> diameter. It was basically <strong>in</strong>tact, with a crack through which<br />

Jim was able to enter the craft. Jim stated there were four dead bodies of a<br />

type he had never seen before. The two eyewitnesses returned to the<br />

truck. Early <strong>in</strong> the morn<strong>in</strong>g they were at the craft fill<strong>in</strong>g two gunny sacks<br />

with foils and other items. Not too long afterward they heard what they<br />

thought were trucks and heavy equipment com<strong>in</strong>g their way. Jim and his<br />

friend broke camp and left . Over time the two gunny sacks of foils were<br />

taken from Jim and his friend.<br />

I believe the flames and the loud noise were caused by the disabled craft’s<br />

electromagnetic systems short<strong>in</strong>g out. The military’s small track<strong>in</strong>g radars<br />

were able to lock on and follow this craft. Without the radar the authorities<br />

would not have been able to arrive so quickly after the crash, with equipment<br />

to recover the craft.<br />

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The seventh and last <strong>UFO</strong> that I will speak about crashed <strong>in</strong> March, 1948,<br />

<strong>in</strong> Hart Canyon about 9 miles north of where we are right now <strong>in</strong> Aztec. This<br />

craft was 100 feet <strong>in</strong> diameter and was totally <strong>in</strong>tact, with 16 dead bodies<br />

aboard.<br />

I have heard 30 m<strong>in</strong>utes of an hour-long wire record<strong>in</strong>g of an <strong>in</strong>terview of a<br />

doctor that visited this crash site. This record<strong>in</strong>g was compell<strong>in</strong>g.<br />

I have one more piece for this puzzle. A friend of m<strong>in</strong>e <strong>in</strong> Gallup told me<br />

that <strong>in</strong> 1948 his dad worked for the Navajo Tribe. His dad heard about this<br />

crash <strong>in</strong> Hart Canyon and was able to get close enough to see the craft.<br />

The eyewitness told his son there were 16 dead aliens <strong>in</strong> the craft.<br />

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There is a plaque at the crash site that states the radar from El Vado had<br />

been track<strong>in</strong>g this <strong>UFO</strong>. I would like to know who gave the order to shoot<br />

down this 100’ craft!<br />

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As I mentioned earlier, Art Campbell and I have artifacts that we retrieved<br />

from the <strong>UFO</strong> that crashed on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong> the night of 1-2<br />

July 1947.<br />

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In 2004 Art Campbell, from the state of Oregon, was a speaker here at the<br />

7 th Annual Aztec <strong>UFO</strong> Symposium. Art told of his search for and f<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>g the<br />

<strong>UFO</strong> crash site on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong> that was mentioned <strong>in</strong> the<br />

book, The Roswell Incident. Art gave an excellent presentation. He showed<br />

several artifacts that he had retrieved from that crash site. When Art<br />

stepped off stage we shook hands. We went to lunch and over time became<br />

friends, and started plann<strong>in</strong>g to have an archaeological dig at the<br />

Pla<strong>in</strong>s crash site.<br />

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In preparation for the dig, I made<br />

four 12-foot high tripods that each<br />

held a 2’ x 3’ basket that we could<br />

use to screen dirt. I hired four<br />

workers to help us screen dirt<br />

while look<strong>in</strong>g for artifacts.<br />

In the spr<strong>in</strong>g of 2004 Art, Nancy<br />

and I, the four workers, and others<br />

gathered on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San<br />

August<strong>in</strong> for a successful Dig. We<br />

retrieved 8 pieces of foil that we<br />

named WADE 1 through 8. Art and<br />

I and a few others went back to the<br />

Pla<strong>in</strong>s the follow<strong>in</strong>g spr<strong>in</strong>g, 2005,<br />

where we conducted another<br />

successful dig.


On July 3, 2004 while attend<strong>in</strong>g the<br />

4 th of July Anniversary celebration <strong>in</strong><br />

Roswell, I gave the foil artifact<br />

named <strong>Wade</strong> 8 to the I<strong>UFO</strong> Museum<br />

and requested they have the foil<br />

analyzed. A couple months later I got<br />

the report that the museum had<br />

received from Seal Laboratories <strong>in</strong><br />

California. The analysis read that<br />

this piece of foil was noth<strong>in</strong>g more<br />

than a piece of alum<strong>in</strong>um foil with<br />

silicon from the soil.<br />

Fortunately I received Seal’s report<br />

the day before Nancy and I met with<br />

a professor at <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong> Tech that had been analyz<strong>in</strong>g six pieces of our<br />

foil. The professor analyzed the foil <strong>in</strong> cross-section—that is, look<strong>in</strong>g at the<br />

edge of the foil. Us<strong>in</strong>g a scann<strong>in</strong>g electron microscope it was easy to see<br />

particles of iron and silicon scattered throughout the alum<strong>in</strong>um. The picture<br />

below is of <strong>Wade</strong> 4. The gray is alum<strong>in</strong>um, the white spots are iron particles,<br />

and the black spots are silicon particles.<br />

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The professor had worked <strong>in</strong> the<br />

foils <strong>in</strong>dustry and he said he had<br />

never seen foil like the samples<br />

he was analyz<strong>in</strong>g. I contacted Alcoa<br />

Alum<strong>in</strong>um, the Alum<strong>in</strong>um Association,<br />

and other people who<br />

were knowledgeable <strong>in</strong> foils. No<br />

one had ever seen foil made like<br />

we have. In fact, none of those<br />

contacted could come up with<br />

how (or why) this foil was manufactured.


A couple of po<strong>in</strong>ts that I would like to make:<br />

If you have artifacts that you want analyzed, Do Not send them to Seal<br />

Laboratories for they only look at the side of the sample, not the cross<br />

section.<br />

Po<strong>in</strong>t number two—if you have a passion for a project Be Persistent <strong>in</strong><br />

your quest. Over the past six years I’ve given out samples of foil to<br />

people from many states and several foreign countries. I have received<br />

some <strong>in</strong>terest<strong>in</strong>g results. A couple of years ago I connected<br />

with a materials scientist named Steve Colbern and <strong>in</strong> October 2010,<br />

I received an outstand<strong>in</strong>g analysis of <strong>Wade</strong> 1-6. This full report can<br />

be seen on my website, <strong>Chuck</strong><strong>Wade</strong><strong>UFO</strong>.com.<br />

S<strong>in</strong>ce Steve did not know what elements might be conta<strong>in</strong>ed <strong>in</strong> the foil<br />

samples, <strong>Wade</strong> 1 through <strong>Wade</strong> 6, he tested for about 60 elements and<br />

has found over 50 elements. I challenge you to take Steve’s report and a<br />

periodic chart and color the elements that he has found.<br />

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Dur<strong>in</strong>g Steve’s analysis, s<strong>in</strong>gle-wall carbon nano-tubes were <strong>in</strong>dicated to<br />

be present <strong>in</strong> the samples! Steve said that s<strong>in</strong>gle-wall carbon nano-tubes<br />

were not discovered until 1991. He is plann<strong>in</strong>g to conduct a specific test for<br />

s<strong>in</strong>gle-wall carbon nano-tubes <strong>in</strong> the near future.<br />

One of the most significant tests that Steve has run is the isotopic ratio of<br />

three stable isotopes of antimony, copper, and nickel. Some of the results<br />

are <strong>in</strong> the chart below. The control (earth) sample and the test<strong>in</strong>g (<strong>Wade</strong> 1)<br />

isotopes would be close to the same number if the sample were terrestrial.<br />

These two sets of numbers are skewed by a large amount, <strong>in</strong>dicat<strong>in</strong>g a<br />

strong probability that these samples are extraterrestrial!!!<br />

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Well, that’s my presentation. We went through seven <strong>UFO</strong> <strong>Crashes</strong> and<br />

<strong>Retrievals</strong> <strong>in</strong> <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong> from 1945 to1948. We ended with the foils that<br />

we retrieved from the 1947 <strong>UFO</strong> crash site on the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong>,<br />

which appear to be extraterrestrial.<br />

Thank you.<br />

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Post Script<br />

Now that WE HAVE PROOF that <strong>UFO</strong>’s did crash and were retrieved<br />

<strong>in</strong> <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong> 1945-1948----<br />

What are we go<strong>in</strong>g to do with this <strong>in</strong>formation???<br />

May I suggest we go to the next level which is:<br />

LEARNING HOW <strong>UFO</strong>’S ARE PROPELLED!!<br />

<strong>UFO</strong>’S DO NOT USE OIL. WHY DO WE?<br />

Foil was retrieved from several of the above mentioned <strong>UFO</strong>’s.<br />

The foil retrieved from the Barney Barnett <strong>UFO</strong> Crash Site on<br />

the Pla<strong>in</strong>s of San August<strong>in</strong>, <strong>New</strong> <strong>Mexico</strong> has been analyzed.<br />

The analysis shows that this foil is Vastly Complex!<br />

May I suggest that We the People<br />

research why the ET’s placed foil on their crafts.<br />

Just maybe, We the People can<br />

SOLVE our ENERGY NEEDS.<br />

Please send this presentation to your friends and contacts. Maybe—<br />

just maybe—this message will have a RIPPLE EFFECT toward solv<strong>in</strong>g<br />

our energy needs of the future!!!<br />

This presentation is copyrighted 2011 by <strong>Chuck</strong> <strong>Wade</strong>.<br />

It may be shared and quoted freely.<br />

For <strong>in</strong>quiries e-mail to <strong>Chuck</strong> <strong>Wade</strong>: wade_eftv@yahoo.com<br />

Web site: www.<strong>Chuck</strong><strong>Wade</strong><strong>UFO</strong>.com<br />

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