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Started by BTD, 10/14/2017, 09:49 PM

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BTD

This is pretty damn cool if I do say so myself.

I imagine most of you guys know what this is.

Turn your PC-98 computer into a PCFX.

This has the ability and software to create your own pcfx games.

$150

UPDATE: https://www.gofundme.com/burn-a-pcfxga-in-my-backyard

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esteban

Any additional info you can provide would be wonderful...

archives.tg-16.com/Dengeki_PC_Engine_1996_04.htm
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The pack-in software...

The installation of hardware...

Any neat notices/documents/disclaimers/warnings....troubleshooting...
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BTD

Quote from: esteban on 10/15/2017, 08:29 AMAny additional info you can provide would be wonderful...

https://archives.tg-16.com/Dengeki_PC_Engine_1996_04.htm

The pack-in software...

The installation of hardware...

Any neat notices/documents/disclaimers/warnings....troubleshooting...
Luke Morse does a great YouTube video on it :

elmer

Quote from: BTD on 10/15/2017, 08:35 AMLuke Morse does a great YouTube video on it :
It's a nice un-boxing video that shows the package contents, but he's not very accurate on the actual details, i.e. it really wasn't a popular board at all.

When I was looking a couple of years ago, they weren't that uncommon on Yahoo Japan, even in brand-new condition (IIRC there was a large stock of unsold units).

The specs on the box show the minimum specs for the PC-9801/PC-9821 computer that you plug it into, for a start.

So ... you need a late-generation Japanese NEC PC-9801, or a PC-9821 computer (not an IBM PC).

Unless you've got one of those, which are pretty darned expensive in the USA, it's just a big paper-weight.


The PC-FXGA DOS/V (green box) is the ISA-card version of the same thing that plugs into an old IBM PC-compatible (with approx the same specs).

BTD

Quote from: elmer on 10/15/2017, 12:25 PM
Quote from: BTD on 10/15/2017, 08:35 AMLuke Morse does a great YouTube video on it :
It's a nice un-boxing video that shows the package contents, but he's not very accurate on the actual details, i.e. it really wasn't a popular board at all.

When I was looking a couple of years ago, they weren't that uncommon on Yahoo Japan, even in brand-new condition (IIRC there was a large stock of unsold units).

The specs on the box show the minimum specs for the PC-9801/PC-9821 computer that you plug it into, for a start.

So ... you need a late-generation Japanese NEC PC-9801, or a PC-9821 computer (not an IBM PC).

Unless you've got one of those, which are pretty darned expensive in the USA, it's just a big paper-weight.


The PC-FXGA DOS/V (green box) is the ISA-card version of the same thing that plugs into an old IBM PC-compatible (with approx the same specs).
Maybe I incorrectly assumed I didn't have to explain what this is... Here of all places.

I don't think anyone here is a stranger to odd Japanese hardware.

Sounds like it's not for you, but don't threadcrap calling it a paperweight.

elmer

Quote from: BTD on 10/15/2017, 04:03 PMMaybe I incorrectly assumed I didn't have to explain what this is... Here of all places.

I don't think anyone here is a stranger to odd Japanese hardware.
Actually, not here everyone knows all the details of everything that NEC made, especially in the PC-FX realm.

If Esteban, with 23K posts is asking questions, then, perhaps, it's not a bad idea for me to clarify things, especially since you've not posted this in the "PC-FX Sales & Trades" section.


QuoteSounds like it's not for you, but don't threadcrap calling it a paperweight.
Nope, it's definitely not for me.

I already own a PC-FXGA DOS/V ... and actually have it working, which it doesn't look like you ever did with your PC-FXGA PC-9800.

You're the guy that claims that what you're selling "Turn your PC-98 computer into a PCFX." and "This has the ability and software to create your own pcfx games.".

Errrr ... Nope.

It actually doesn't really (in practice) do either of those, and if you'd got it working, you'd know that.

But instead, everything looks sealed, and you're pointing to a video with an authority-figure that didn't get his working either.

For both of you, it's just a cool-looking conversation-starting shelf-candy paperweight.


Quote from: elmer on 10/15/2017, 12:25 PMSo ... you need a late-generation Japanese NEC PC-9801, or a PC-9821 computer (not an IBM PC).

Unless you've got one of those, which are pretty darned expensive in the USA, it's just a big paper-weight.
If you can actually refute what I said, then please go ahead. I'd love to be corrected.

Please tell me how you've either got that PC-FXGA working to play games without a compatible PC-98xx system, or how you are getting cheap cheap 486+SCSI-CD NEC PC-98 systems imported from Japan into the USA.

Arkhan Asylum

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First:  This should be moved to the PC-FX sales area

Next, I am baffled at how Esteban doesn't know about any of this, considering these/this/etc. has come up here before, and he has posted in those threads before, lol. 

Third: FFS Elmer, stop being a tool.

It's not completely inaccurate to say it "turns your PC98 into an FX".   It's just leaving out the part that it's an unwieldy pain in the ass by today's standards, and that it requires a certain caliber of PC-98 for it to actually work.

However, anyone who had any actual interest in buying and using a thing clearly labeled for a PC-98 probably already imported a PC-98 of the required specs because they probably wanted to play later games.   Not many people go through the effort of importing a PC98 just to get a garbage one.

and they likely did it back before it was expensive outside of shipping costs.   Like, pre Falling Junk era pricing even.

and even then, they probably paid for the "put it on a boat and see it in 6 months" rate that cost like 40$ at the time.


EDIT:  Also, the thread's title is "PC-FX GA Brand New."   

So, of course the seller didn't open and get any of it working.   You don't need to dive too far into the thread or put on your thinking cap to deduce something that's stated before you even get into the thread itself, lol.

Might want to calm down and catch onto obvious shit like that before you put the pedal to the metal with the "I know stuff" routine.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

turboswimbz

Guys come on Esty is a history guy.  He's always asking anyone for any bits of information and scan material he can save, even if it's all stuff he already has or have been said before.  It's not that he doesn't know at all . . . Don't do the Le Grafx like that

Also at Esty's 23K posts how can he he keep track of anything.  I am amazed the guy even knows what thread he's in.  I keep expecting one day to find a post about toe jam in the PC-FX repair section and an insightful post on modern politics influence from shooters of the late 80's  in a Ys thread. 

I always found the 88's/98's interesting and also this card.   Would be neat to see someone put it to use (and maybe Share) Either Way a relatively fair price, I hope a PCE lover gets it and enjoys it, even as a paperweight!.
NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

NecroPhile

Thread moved.  It's best not to be a condescending ass when you've already failed yourself.

Quote from: BTD on 10/15/2017, 04:03 PMMaybe I incorrectly assumed I didn't have to explain what this is... Here of all places.

I don't think anyone here is a stranger to odd Japanese hardware.

Sounds like it's not for you, but don't threadcrap calling it a paperweight.
Come down off your high horse.  Esteban and Elmer aren't 100% ignorant of what it is; they were asking for additional information, but I guess you can't be bothered to oblige.  Thanks for being such a standup, helpful member of the community, and pimping your ebay wares here.... in the wrong subforum.

Honestly, it will be a paperweight for 99% of prospective buyers.  Even the 'normal' PC-FX is little more than a conversation piece for many owners, at least once they've sampled a few games and been scared off by the strong gaijin protection.  :lol:
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BTD

Quote from: guest on 10/16/2017, 10:22 AMThread moved.  It's best not to be a condescending ass when you've already failed yourself.

Quote from: BTD on 10/15/2017, 04:03 PMMaybe I incorrectly assumed I didn't have to explain what this is... Here of all places.

I don't think anyone here is a stranger to odd Japanese hardware.

Sounds like it's not for you, but don't threadcrap calling it a paperweight.
Come down off your high horse.  Esteban and Elmer aren't 100% ignorant of what it is; they were asking for additional information, but I guess you can't be bothered to oblige.  Thanks for being such a standup, helpful member of the community, and pimping your ebay wares here.... in the wrong subforum.

Honestly, it will be a paperweight for 99% of prospective buyers.  Even the 'normal' PC-FX is little more than a conversation piece for many owners, at least once they've sampled a few games and been scared off by the strong gaijin protection.  :lol:
You know what, fuck it.

Delete the thread. What a bunch of fucking little girls.

Arkhan Asylum

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So...why would anyone expect additional information to come from someone listing something as "brand new"?   

I don't think in 2017 we need to rely on someone like that to provide any additional information when there's already enough information out there on the things.

Esteban will probably get new-old information and ask for it next time again or something, and Elmer doesn't really need the info since he didn't actually ask for any.

BTD wasn't wrong when he opened up saying "I imagine most of you know what this is.".

Pretty much anyone buying it is either:

A) Going to stare at it with no intent of unsealing it because they don't know what the hell it is other than a PC-FX doodad.

B) Planning on hooking it up to their PC98 they already own and know things about, so they can go "Wow this is a mess, I have no idea what I am doing!" , followed by basically becoming person A.


I think the more important thing is, if LukeMorse's video is really inaccurate, let's hear all the corrections.

I didn't watch the video and don't really feel like watching it TBH.   

It probably gives enough of an overview to let you know what it is, though and I wouldn't be shocked if Elmer's just being pedantic / exaggerating.

I think BTD saying "it's not for you" is more to the effect of "you're clearly not interested in buying it", which is fair.

Speaking of fair,

150$ for a completely unmolested one that's still got sealed stuff isn't necessarily an awful price especially if it's shipping stateside. 



EDIT: And subquestion, what is a standup member of the community anymore?  I've been seeing some pretty moronic shit from people who are "standup" members here, being total assclowns elsewhere.  (Elsewhere meaning: FB, and Twitter).    It's like they kiss ass here, and smear shit on the walls everywhere else.

Shits going south pretty quick these days, lol.

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

turboswimbz

Quote from: guest on 10/16/2017, 11:53 AMI think BTD saying "it's not for you" is more to the effect of "you're clearly not interested in buying it", which is fair.

Speaking of fair,

150$ for a completely unmolested one that's still got sealed stuff isn't necessarily an awful price especially if it's shipping stateside. 



EDIT: And subquestion, what is a standup member of the community anymore?  I've been seeing some pretty moronic shit from people who are "standup" members here, being total assclowns elsewhere.  (Elsewhere meaning: FB, and Twitter).    It's like they kiss ass here, and smear shit on the walls everywhere else.

Shits going south pretty quick these days, lol.
I agree on the price!  I would have bought it if i had Use for it other than decoration.

Ark.  That's a good point I have seen a lot of crap lately. I don't even few the facebook groups anymore.



P.S.
Also I feel like BTD has been a fair member.  I can't remember his prices/post ever being crazy.  Yes it's been mostly to trade/sell/buy but to be honest, like 90% of the forums/FB/Twitter are that.  I've got to say I feel like everyone kinda went overboard here, and BTD kinda got steam rolled.   
NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

Arkhan Asylum

If I didn't sell my PC98 like 9 years ago because it was a giant space eating whore next to my Apple IIe and PC88 (Apple IIe is next to gtfo), I would buy this probably

and rip the packages open and accidentally rip paperwork and stuff because I hate sealed things and everyone.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

NecroPhile

So when people ask for more info. and say the GA isn't very useful (which is pretty accurate) and get told that they're stupid threadcrappers, it's the OP that's the victim?  :lol:

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 10/16/2017, 11:53 AMSo...why would anyone expect additional information to come from someone listing something as "brand new"?   
Part of what was asked for was what all was included in the box; it's not a sealed box, so he certainly could've explained what all it came with and/or shown more pics.

Also, it's possible that it's duplicate hardware and he has extensive first hand knowledge of how the thing works, even if this particular copy hasn't been used.  Surely he knows everything there is to know about it, right?  Nobody would buy one otherwise.  :roll:

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 10/16/2017, 11:53 AMI don't think in 2017 we need to rely on someone like that to provide any additional information when there's already enough information out there on the things.
We don't have to rely on him, sure, but neither is it inappropriate to ask for more info.  If you, BTD, or anyone else wants a one-way street where nobody can pose questions or comments, lock your fucking threads.

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 10/16/2017, 11:53 AMI think the more important thing is, if LukeMorse's video is really inaccurate, let's hear all the corrections.
He says it has the same capabilities of the console, completely ignoring the 3D hardware.

He says repeatedly that it was wildly popular and lots of "amazing" homebrew games were made for it, and the only reason we don't see any of it is because of the language barrier.

He says repeatedly that it's for "PCs", which is rather misleading.  The PC-98 is a PC, of course, but the GA only works on a small subset of PC-98s, which is itself a tiny subset of all PCs.

There's also what he fails to mention, namely that there's three different versions.

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 10/16/2017, 11:53 AMI didn't watch the video and don't really feel like watching it TBH.
Yeah, why bother?  It's more important to tell elmer he's wrong than actually watch and see for yourself.
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Arkhan Asylum

#14
I didn't tell Elmer he was wrong.   I was just telling him to quit being a tool.  Doesn't mean he's totally wrong. 

I was asking for why he said LM was wrong since he already watched the video.  elmer only mentioned one example of inaccuracy, implying he had a bunch of other stuff he could say.  Having low expectations doesn't mean I'm saying he's wrong, either.  It's just expecting semantics/nitpicking, but if there's actual wrong things, cool, lets hear them.    It's valid and useful for the thread, considering the video was linked and is now part of the discussion.

I don't really watch any of LukeMorse's videos.   I don't like watching videos of people rambling and holding stuff up.

If someone else already did the legwork on that, I'd rather just ask.    It's not like Elmer is shy about posting things like that, anyways.   The OP posted the video, so I thought that pretty much confirmed he isn't going to be providing alot of information himself, and removes any doubt on if this is a second one and he's already well versed in one that he's been using...


Again with Esteban though, I am confused, because I swear he's already commented in threads about this stuff and already knows stuff.    I get optimistically wanting more information to the point of impossibility, but I really would've expected him to know better given that he was participating in a much more detailed thread already...


Quote from: NecroPhile on 10/16/2017, 01:27 PMSurely he knows everything there is to know about it, right?  Nobody would buy one otherwise.  :roll:
Cute snark and eyeroll, but I already covered those as "Person A". 


This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

NecroPhile

"Saying he's probably wrong doesn't mean I think he's actually wrong!  You're twisting my words!!!"

Ell Oh fucking Ell.
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Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: NecroPhile on 10/16/2017, 03:13 PM"Saying he's probably wrong doesn't mean I think he's actually wrong!  You're twisting my words!!!"

Ell Oh fucking Ell.
pedantic/exaggerating isn't saying someones wrong...

pedantic people are usually right. 

You're trying way too hard to do something that isn't actually there.  lol.   Slow day at work?

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

elmer

Quote from: guest on 10/16/2017, 02:32 AMFFS Elmer, stop being a tool.
My second post, after I'd been accused of threadcrapping, was definitely a bit more dickish than I'm happy with, but there's nothing in my initial post that I have any problem with having said.


The OP was making a claim that was incorrect, and then posted a link to a video that contains a bunch of inaccurate statements.


But, apart from that, he posted a lot of really good pictures of what he's selling, and the price seems pretty reasonable.

That doesn't stop it from being a pretty $150 paperweight if you don't have a correctly-spec'd PC-9801.


This is a nice video of someone actually running a PC-FXGA in their PC-98 computer ...

Arkhan Asylum

The funny part is, it's a 150$ paperweight unless you have a 150lb paperweight to attach it to, lol.

hell yeah.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

SignOfZeta

Quote from: guest on 10/16/2017, 10:22 AMThread moved.  It's best not to be a condescending ass when you've already failed yourself.

Quote from: BTD on 10/15/2017, 04:03 PMMaybe I incorrectly assumed I didn't have to explain what this is... Here of all places.

I don't think anyone here is a stranger to odd Japanese hardware.

Sounds like it's not for you, but don't threadcrap calling it a paperweight.
Come down off your high horse.  Esteban and Elmer aren't 100% ignorant of what it is; they were asking for additional information, but I guess you can't be bothered to oblige.  Thanks for being such a standup, helpful member of the community, and pimping your ebay wares here.... in the wrong subforum.

Honestly, it will be a paperweight for 99% of prospective buyers.  Even the 'normal' PC-FX is little more than a conversation piece for many owners, at least once they've sampled a few games and been scared off by the strong gaijin protection.  :lol:
If one of the better coders here were to launch a crowd funding campaign to develop a tool that can reliably count how many times you've told someone on this forum to get off a high horse I would contribute $20 to that cause.

In addition to it being overdone to the point of it practically being your catchphrase, I'm not sure if this is even a decent use of the metaphor.

As for Esteban...he's old, I do the same thing now. I find out about some cool thing and when I go to punch it into my googler many of the top results are ME taking about it that last time I "discovered" it.

I've never bought a newly discovered thing not realizing I used to own it, I'm not that far gone yet.
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SignOfZeta

So are there any advantages to playing FX games this way? Obviously the video could be slightly better since it would be RGB. Are there any other potential upgrades like access speed?
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elmer

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 10/16/2017, 03:26 PMSo are there any advantages to playing FX games this way? Obviously the video could be slightly better since it would be RGB. Are there any other potential upgrades like access speed?
Nope, not that I can think of.

I don't remember any improvement in level loading speed when I was working on the Zeroigar translation, but a fast CD drive will definitely have a better seek time. I was a bit worried about that when we added the subtitles to the video, but SamIAm confirmed that we were OK on real hardware.

The PC-FXGA's video doesn't display on the PC-98's RGB monitor ... you need to plug a composite or s-video TV into the PC-FXGA board.

The board's main point of interest is that it contains the PC-FX's 3D hardware that never shipped for the original console.

But you needed to buy the extra-cost GMAKER or GMAKER PLUS packages in order to get the development software for the board. It's not included in the base package that the OP is selling.

I've never actually seen the retail packaging for that add-on software.

Luckily, someone posted the complete package on one of those sites that we can't mention here.  :wink:

NecroPhile

No, my catch phrase is "go fuck yourself".

I can't think of any games off hand that have annoyingly long load times on the regular system, so I wouldn't expect a huge difference in how a game feels.  Can you rip and run commercial games from HDD?  Probably not, but I bet any home brew games would feel pretty snappy compared to if you burnt 'em to disc.
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esteban

Quote from: guest on 10/16/2017, 01:52 PMAgain with Esteban though, I am confused, because I swear he's already commented in threads about this stuff and already knows stuff.    I get optimistically wanting more information to the point of impossibility, but I really would've expected him to know better given that he was participating in a much more detailed thread already...
Ha! You just want to cook up some hot juicy drama where there is NONE. :)

You are confused?

It's incredibly basic:

(1) I always ask for info from *multiple* sources. A seemingly simple "throwaway" thread like this can payoff (not always, but if you don't ask, you'll never create the opportunity for the conversation to grow/evolve organically).

(2) I don't know everything, and my "personal" notes are incomplete (real life gets in the way). Additionally, my own notes/scans are scattered across countless files/documents/tables I've made over the past 20 years (various hard drives  and Zipdisks and CDs...seriously).

(3) Even when I have notes on a topic/issue, I often have a different perspective when I revisit it at a future date.


(4) You read my post, correct? As NECRO and Swimbz pointed out, I specifically asked for *errata*/additional docs such as  errata, tech notices, disclaimers, warnings, troubleshooting guides and various little items that might be overlooked.

Finally: I have never focused on the PC-FX. I only have a basic working knowledge of it.... PC-FX has always been on the periphery...

I sincerely feel that you want drama. Instead...I'm boring and old. Sorry.

:)
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SignOfZeta

Quote from: guest on 10/16/2017, 03:57 PMNo, my catch phrase is "go fuck yourself".

I can't think of any games off hand that have annoyingly long load times on the regular system, so I wouldn't expect a huge difference in how a game feels.  Can you rip and run commercial games from HDD?  Probably not, but I bet any home brew games would feel pretty snappy compared to if you burnt 'em to disc.
Normal people say "go fuck yourself" all the time. It's no catch phrase. Most people don't say "Oh climb down from your high horse" more that once or twice in their entire life though. I've said "Use the Force" or "narfle the garthok" more often then the high horse thing.

I think you may just have a shitty horse and it's making you obsessed with horse height, kinda like how that certain kind of short guy always wants to kick someones ass. It becomes all consuming if you let it, the quest to bring everyone down to your level.
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SignOfZeta

Quote from: elmer on 10/16/2017, 03:48 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 10/16/2017, 03:26 PMSo are there any advantages to playing FX games this way? Obviously the video could be slightly better since it would be RGB. Are there any other potential upgrades like access speed?
Nope, not that I can think of.

I don't remember any improvement in level loading speed when I was working on the Zeroigar translation, but a fast CD drive will definitely have a better seek time. I was a bit worried about that when we added the subtitles to the video, but SamIAm confirmed that we were OK on real hardware.

The PC-FXGA's video doesn't display on the PC-98's RGB monitor ... you need to plug a composite or s-video TV into the PC-FXGA board.

The board's main point of interest is that it contains the PC-FX's 3D hardware that never shipped for the original console.

But you needed to buy the extra-cost GMAKER or GMAKER PLUS packages in order to get the development software for the board. It's not included in the base package that the OP is selling.

I've never actually seen the retail packaging for that add-on software.

Luckily, someone posted the complete package on one of those sites that we can't mention here.  :wink:
Oh climb on down for that high horse, please.






Sorry, it just isn't working for me. I can only make it apply in a very short list of circumstances that I rarely find myself in.

I guess I'm not surprised by what you said. Most things like this are locked into the speed of the thing they emulate no matter what you mess with. Also, this isn't even the first NEC computer to use parallel video outputs because it had %90 of a console inside of it. Since the FX isn't native RGB the only way this computer would be able output FX RGB would be if the PC itself actually had some say in running the games hardware-wise which it probably doesn't.
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Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: esteban on 10/16/2017, 05:36 PMI sincerely feel that you want drama. Instead...I'm boring and old. Sorry.
Drama, from you?  Not really.   This isn't really that juicy.  Elmer even said his post was more dickish than he would've liked, so, *shrug*.

It's more like, as Elmer pointed out, you have like 23000 posts, lol.   I've seen you post on basically the same shit before.   My bad for assuming you keep track.    But like you said, you're old.  Maybe you forget stuff.  I don't know.  You're not that into the PC-FX.  It's whatever.

My "uhhhh" mostly comes from the fact that it's a bunch of sealed stuff so what was he going to show you compared to the opened ones? lol.  If it wasn't listed as "brand new" and the pictures weren't a bunch of sealed things, I would be less jackie-chan-face-meme about it.

I get the excited "oh man show me stuff", but, c'mon dude.  It's a bunch of sealed shit...
 
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

SignOfZeta

Quote from: elmer on 10/16/2017, 03:17 PM
Quote from: guest on 10/16/2017, 02:32 AMFFS Elmer, stop being a tool.
My second post, after I'd been accused of threadcrapping, was definitely a bit more dickish than I'm happy with, but there's nothing in my initial post that I have any problem with having said.


The OP was making a claim that was incorrect, and then posted a link to a video that contains a bunch of inaccurate statements.


But, apart from that, he posted a lot of really good pictures of what he's selling, and the price seems pretty reasonable.

That doesn't stop it from being a pretty $150 paperweight if you don't have a correctly-spec'd PC-9801.


This is a nice video of someone actually running a PC-FXGA in their PC-98 computer ...
This video is really interesting. So are the programs he's loading at the end (which he said were DOS based) using that 3D acceleration that is only found on the card version of the FX?
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ClodBusted

#28
How about:
A) Resuming to attack the OP?
B) Providing more cool information about that piece of hardware.
C) ?

On another note, este is still gold.

elmer

Quote from: guest on 10/16/2017, 03:57 PMCan you rip and run commercial games from HDD?  Probably not, but I bet any home brew games would feel pretty snappy compared to if you burnt 'em to disc.
If you've got a compatible sound card in your PC-98, GMAKER PLUS comes with a program that lets you create and use a CD Image on your HDD, but I've not used it.

The programs that run the board are all DOS based, and that limits you to 2GB FAT16 partitions, so you're not going to store lots of CD images on your HDD.


Quote from: SignOfZeta on 10/17/2017, 12:59 AMThis video is really interesting. So are the programs he's loading at the end (which he said were DOS based) using that 3D acceleration that is only found on the card version of the FX?
You've got to reboot into DOS to run the board, but it includes a couple of graphics utilities that run in Win95 (16-bit Windows).

You can see him trying to run a couple of example programs that load data into the PC-FXGA's RAM and run from there.

Here's the fighting game funning properly ...
The other stuff, where you see him running "mixplay" or any "*.mix" file, is just playing back pre-rendered video from the HDD.


Quote from: guest on 10/17/2017, 01:30 AMHow about:
B) Providing more cool information about that piece of hardware.
What do you want to know?

Search YouTube for "PC-FXGA" and you'll find a bunch of videos.

Just remember, there was never any real commercial development for the board, so everything is pretty half-assed.

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: elmer on 10/17/2017, 12:24 PMJust remember, there was never any real commercial development for the board, so everything is pretty half-assed.
Are you talking about the PCFXGA, or the PC-FX at this point? lol

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

NecroPhile

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 10/17/2017, 01:47 PMAre you talking about the PCFXGA, or the PC-FX at this point? lol
Yes.  :lol:
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BTD

Everyone done?

I'd hate to interrupt anyone.

Jesus h fucking christ being raped by an otter with an eyepatch. What in the ever-loving fuck-shit was that all about?

Nod and salute to the guys sticking up for me. Everyone else can eat a dick.

Now who wants to buy my fucking paperweight?

SignOfZeta

Without diversions this thread would be totally useless.
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NecroPhile

Rage quit then come back a few days later and whine about people being off topic in a thread you requested to have deleted.  Classic!
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Gypsy

Quote from: BTD on 10/18/2017, 08:35 PMNow who wants to buy my fucking paperweight?
Looks like no one.

NecroPhile

Though my previous post was accurate, BTD apparently took offense:

QuoteThis guy is a bag of dicks.. I hope you get your own mod report
Cool story, bruh.  Thanks for reporting me to me.  :lol:
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ClodBusted

What's does B.T.D. stand for anyway?

NightWolve

#38
Quote from: elmer on 10/16/2017, 01:11 AMIf Esteban, with 23K posts is asking questions, then, perhaps, it's not a bad idea for me to clarify things
Wow, checked to see if that was true and I'll be damned, he racked up 23,483 posts! When did that happen ?

Congrats, esteban, you beat Tom-chan "The XSEED Henchman" Lipschultz, who was the 16,000 post champion at what you used to call The Ys Love Shack (Ancient Land of Ys forum) with his "WyrdWad" account! I didn't know many accounts that crossed 10k marks over the years...

Well, I was invited to the thread by a mod report, NecroPhile has allegedly been bad boy again, heh. Funny enough, last I remember NecroPhile was at 11,000 posts, now at 19k so both (esteban and he) are top posters here who usually don't "tweet" a few chatroom style lines but occasional content.

Anyway, I don't care about the thread subject, carry on the hazing if you must. ;)

Arkhan Asylum

I'd buy it if it wasn't 150$ because I'd rip it open within seconds and flip through everything even though I already have all that stuff for DOS .



I've been bitten by the goddamns tupid fudasglkjdfgk;ljasdf;jkl asshole PC98bug again and keep having to hit myself to stop myself from buying one again, lol
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

ClodBusted

Quote from: guest on 10/20/2017, 09:41 AMWhat's does B.T.D. stand for anyway?
I'll make some suggestions. Such as:

Bitching 'till death
Bring the dicks
Bite the dong
Bees tackled dinosaurs
Boobies taste delicious

turboswimbz

Quote from: guest on 10/21/2017, 03:52 AM
Quote from: guest on 10/20/2017, 09:41 AMWhat's does B.T.D. stand for anyway?
I'll make some suggestions. Such as:

Beautiful 'till death
Bring the danish
Bite the devils food cake
Bees trust dinosaurs
Breasts taste delicious
I'm too lazy so here's a list other people made:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BTD
NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

esteban

#42
Bikkuriman Daijikai Telecast (BDT).

BDT, my new Streaming Twitch Show (STS)
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NightWolve


BTD


turboswimbz

NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

NightWolve


SignOfZeta

Please enter me in this raffle.
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BTD


NecroPhile

And you're a horrible human being.

Poor little GA never hurt anyone.  :(
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